they are truly one of the most awful bands of all time, like status quo, they found a formula and stuck to it.
I was speaking to a fellow musician and he told me how they do it. They take copyright free tunes, often stuff used in muzak, and work them into songs. That way, the tunes seem vaguely familiar to the listener so it feels like the song has been around for ages.
I agree with High Guise, their creative spark seems to have begun and died with Yellow, which sounds like a track rejected from Radioheads Pablo Honey.
Coldplay are the Voight-Kampff test for centrist dadism. Laz, unfortunately, has failed and will now be terminated. I will fold a tony origami swan in his memory.
Boring music which is enjoyed by people who know little about music and appreciate comfort from tunes which are so simple that they become familiar quickly.
they're perfectly fine. completely listenable pop rock.
having performative strong opinions about coldplay is the hallmark of people who imagine they're music connoisseurs but haven't actually listened to a new song since 2006.
I admire their ability to make a fortune out of attaching nonsense lyrics to catch tunes. Basically a 20th century Edward Lear with music. Judging by their tours there are plenty of other people who like them.
having performative strong opinions about coldplay is the hallmark of people who imagine they're music connoisseurs
I'm not a connoisseur but I am a musician and I know good music when I hear it. Coldplay isn't. It's bland garbage designed to sell to people who really don't know much about (or care much) music.
I'll happily make the same critique about the Beatles, for every really good song of theirs, there's a hundred terrible ones.
I was going to post something but see pancakes has said 100% of what I was going to say.
Music is for enjoyment. It's not tribal. There's stuff you like and stuff you don't. I don't give a shit what that is. It's just notes in your ears, man.
Eddie, interesting that you seem to think you need to be a musician to appreciate "good" music. I think that rather misunderstands the purpose of music.
I don't really like Coldplay - they're fine if a bit unexciting and I definitely don't giveafvck what other people choose to listen to but this is horseshit:
I am a musician and I know good music when I hear it.
Being a musician doesn't of itself confer an ability to discern good and bad music. There are musicians in Coldplay - rather successful ones. I find a lot of serious musicians are fairly respectful of anybody that can craft a career doing music, as it is so hard to do and something many people dream of doing. Even if the musicians in question are not technical virtuosos or groundbreaking avantgardists. Not everyone wants that from music.
I probably should have phrased that better, I know a bit of music theory so when I see the same chord progressions being used ad nauseum in Pop, it gets on my nerves. It's done deliberately and lacks creativity.
Blues and Rock use a very simple progression but are incredibly creative with it (I-IV-V). Pop tunes usually use I-V-vi-IV in the major scale. When you listen carefully to a pop song, you hear the same 4 notes being repeated, often in the bass line. When I listen to bands such as Coldplay, this is all I hear.
Yes but this is music aimed at the mass market , not musicians, that is not what most people here, they hear the catchy tune the lyrics. It is a tremendous skill to write a catch tune and lyrics people want to listen to, just not a skill you happen to appreciate as much as create chord progressions.
I'm always amazed by the serious composers who can look at a sheet of paper with some lines and come up with something that sounds amazing played by a full orchestra. Just the sheer ability to think it would sound good if the violins do this while the woodwind does something different.
Chris Martin (ignore the bezzes) is one of the most cynical people in entertainment of the past 50 years. He belongs in the corporate world, not the creative one. People like him have ruined pop culture. Soma, so bad.
I'm with you on that Sails, orchestration is an incredible skill. Not sure I could do it myself but I know what they're doing and have an inkling of how they do it.
Beethoven proved that you don't even have to be able to hear to write a cracking tune.
Name me a band that produces music for musicians rather than a market please
No one specifically but it could be argued that to really appreciate Tool, you really need to know music.
There were some grunge bands who were particularly geared towards other musicians.
And then there's Rory Gallagher who is known as the guitarists guitarist. he never released singles and toured constantly. He's fairly unknown outside of the guitar community but was incredibly influential on other very famous musicians such as Brian May, Slash, Alex Lifeson, Jimmy Page to name a few. His set at the Isle of Wight Festival was filmed in full because the producers got wind that Jimi Hendrix had said that Rory was the only musician he wanted to see.
I was in Tesco the other day and the background music was a coldplay song with the Uilleann Pipes in it. I never thought it would be possible for the Uilleann Pipes to sound that ugly (i heard them before I realised it was coldplay)
I'm with you on that Sails, orchestration is an incredible skill. Not sure I could do it myself but I know what they're doing and have an inkling of how they do it.
they're perfectly fine. completely listenable pop rock.
having performative strong opinions about coldplay is the hallmark of people who imagine they're music connoisseurs but haven't actually listened to a new song since 2006.
This was the end of the thread, for those that haven't noticed.
Whereas I'm loving Northampton's form but frustrated by the fact that, unlike your countrymen, we don't seem to know how to translate club form to country form
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You say that as though it’s something that you’ll get into Trouble for. Nowt wrong with it Laz…..no need to Fix You for liking them.
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Best band in the world.
For the week that Yellow came out.
Stopped there.
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Chug chug chug
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sorry for you man,
they are truly one of the most awful bands of all time, like status quo, they found a formula and stuck to it.
I was speaking to a fellow musician and he told me how they do it. They take copyright free tunes, often stuff used in muzak, and work them into songs. That way, the tunes seem vaguely familiar to the listener so it feels like the song has been around for ages.
I agree with High Guise, their creative spark seems to have begun and died with Yellow, which sounds like a track rejected from Radioheads Pablo Honey.
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One day they'll be mentioned in the same breath as Mantovani.
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One day they'll be mentioned in the same breath as Gary Glitter and the Gang.
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Laz, can you do one of your Patrick Bateman style reviews of Coldplay and their evolving style?
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Unlistenable dross.
Very occasionally there is a schism in centrist dad consensus. I fear this is one of them.
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I liked the one sung by the gorilla in Sing 2
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Coldplay are the Voight-Kampff test for centrist dadism. Laz, unfortunately, has failed and will now be terminated. I will fold a tony origami swan in his memory.
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What laz said
When I was a tedious and pretentious music snob I didn't like them, then I grew up
Hth
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Boring music which is enjoyed by people who know little about music and appreciate comfort from tunes which are so simple that they become familiar quickly.
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they're perfectly fine. completely listenable pop rock.
having performative strong opinions about coldplay is the hallmark of people who imagine they're music connoisseurs but haven't actually listened to a new song since 2006.
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heh massive @ the idea of “knowing stuff about music”
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the only song of theirs I know of is the one which uses Kraftwerk's Computer Love
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I admire their ability to make a fortune out of attaching nonsense lyrics to catch tunes. Basically a 20th century Edward Lear with music. Judging by their tours there are plenty of other people who like them.
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Kimmy unless you have never ventured outside your home for the last decade you know more than one song of theirs.
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If you say so, guy!
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I'm not a connoisseur but I am a musician and I know good music when I hear it. Coldplay isn't. It's bland garbage designed to sell to people who really don't know much about (or care much) music.
I'll happily make the same critique about the Beatles, for every really good song of theirs, there's a hundred terrible ones.
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People who have issues with people who have issues with coldplay are the worst.
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I was going to post something but see pancakes has said 100% of what I was going to say.
Music is for enjoyment. It's not tribal. There's stuff you like and stuff you don't. I don't give a shit what that is. It's just notes in your ears, man.
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Eddie, interesting that you seem to think you need to be a musician to appreciate "good" music. I think that rather misunderstands the purpose of music.
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I don't really like Coldplay - they're fine if a bit unexciting and I definitely don't giveafvck what other people choose to listen to but this is horseshit:
Being a musician doesn't of itself confer an ability to discern good and bad music. There are musicians in Coldplay - rather successful ones. I find a lot of serious musicians are fairly respectful of anybody that can craft a career doing music, as it is so hard to do and something many people dream of doing. Even if the musicians in question are not technical virtuosos or groundbreaking avantgardists. Not everyone wants that from music.
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I probably should have phrased that better, I know a bit of music theory so when I see the same chord progressions being used ad nauseum in Pop, it gets on my nerves. It's done deliberately and lacks creativity.
Blues and Rock use a very simple progression but are incredibly creative with it (I-IV-V). Pop tunes usually use I-V-vi-IV in the major scale. When you listen carefully to a pop song, you hear the same 4 notes being repeated, often in the bass line. When I listen to bands such as Coldplay, this is all I hear.
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Yes but this is music aimed at the mass market , not musicians, that is not what most people here, they hear the catchy tune the lyrics. It is a tremendous skill to write a catch tune and lyrics people want to listen to, just not a skill you happen to appreciate as much as create chord progressions.
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I'm always amazed by the serious composers who can look at a sheet of paper with some lines and come up with something that sounds amazing played by a full orchestra. Just the sheer ability to think it would sound good if the violins do this while the woodwind does something different.
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Chris Martin (ignore the bezzes) is one of the most cynical people in entertainment of the past 50 years. He belongs in the corporate world, not the creative one. People like him have ruined pop culture. Soma, so bad.
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Name me a band that produces music for musicians rather than a market please
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Being a musician and having a career are not the same thing, obvs.
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Viva la Vida is a modern allegory. The destruction of Jerusalem is the basis for our redemption.
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I'm with you on that Sails, orchestration is an incredible skill. Not sure I could do it myself but I know what they're doing and have an inkling of how they do it.
Beethoven proved that you don't even have to be able to hear to write a cracking tune.
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No one specifically but it could be argued that to really appreciate Tool, you really need to know music.
There were some grunge bands who were particularly geared towards other musicians.
And then there's Rory Gallagher who is known as the guitarists guitarist. he never released singles and toured constantly. He's fairly unknown outside of the guitar community but was incredibly influential on other very famous musicians such as Brian May, Slash, Alex Lifeson, Jimmy Page to name a few. His set at the Isle of Wight Festival was filmed in full because the producers got wind that Jimi Hendrix had said that Rory was the only musician he wanted to see.
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Allan Holdsworth.
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Massivepseudsayswhat?
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Massive c unt says nothing as per
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Assume you're referring to yourself.
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I was in Tesco the other day and the background music was a coldplay song with the Uilleann Pipes in it. I never thought it would be possible for the Uilleann Pipes to sound that ugly (i heard them before I realised it was coldplay)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POXWdLOws84
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This is a brilliant bit of partridge, Rofstyle:
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I love how divisive this bland MOR crap band are. Got people calling each other khuntz and everything.
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There’s only one way to make Coldplay even more divisive on Rof…….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ebB1fvJzT24&pp=ygURc2FtIHNtaXRoIGZpeCB5b3U%3D
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Holy shIt......that powerful combo broke the thread
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all you've done is pollute my cookies.
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This was the end of the thread, for those that haven't noticed.
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Please Eddie - your cookies include all kinds of Irish rugby sites
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not at the moment, I can't handle how bad Munster are right now.
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Whereas I'm loving Northampton's form but frustrated by the fact that, unlike your countrymen, we don't seem to know how to translate club form to country form
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I like Britney spears. Eat me
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Looks like I’ll be seeing Coldplay live in June! Two free tickets just given to me for free.
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