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My view

For no apparent reason I want to lay it out here and then I was hoping people can point me in the right direction for some educational reading, or just pick my points apart. Actually I dont care, I need a distraction and I wanted to rant. 

 

On a high level I probably consider myself a right leaning leftie? I identify with Lib Dem and Labour  and feel uncomfortable with the Tories however I feel that we could probably maintain quite a strong free-ish market with the right regs and I do believe that a free-ish market is not innately evil. 

Certain things drive a free market and not all those things are bad. 

My feeling right now is if you took Mcdonnell and Corbyn away from the Labour party (and probably got rid of the momentum movement more generally) I would probably be a Labour voter - as it stands Labour terrifies me and makes me angry. 

For some reason this makes me just think back to Ed Miliband - dont know why but right now I feel like I would happily vote for him. 

In terms of the Tories - I hate most of them, but then I would do better off personally under a Tory government. That said I abhor the idea of voting on the basis of how it affects one personally (unless drastic) as it is what is best for the counrty which should drive us - but I do have this underlying fear that Labour would fook things up.

HOWEVER is this underlying fear media-induced???? Well I dont really consume much mainstream media these days...BBC is my only news source generally. 

I think some of the Labour policies are so transparently attempting to entice the working clasee voters it offends me. It is also meant to entice virtue signalling types who just want to "help the poor and needy". I mean I really want to help the poor and needy too, you cant knock that as a cause, but I feel like the subjects (the poor and needy) end up getting treated as a means unto an end and not, as Kant suggested should be the case of humankind, an end in and of themselves. 

In any case both sides are equally as guilty as manipulating the working classes. 

The middle gets squeezed, except under Corbyn we are to believe that we are not the "middle" we are the top 5% so we deserve it? 

And even if I read, educate myself, come to some sort of justifiable opinion about what is "right", unless I intend to go out and get into politics proper, my small vote has little impact. So if I read more will I become more infuriated with the way things are?

God its really all pissing me off at the moment. 

 

Maybe I will right my own manifesto and start the revolution - anyone got Russell Brands number

 

 

*some steam blown off

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do have Russell’s number as happens. 

But that aside, welcome to exactly where the rest of us are. Nowhere. 

(Putins darlings on here aside. They are having a lovely time)

lots of folks would love to have a new labour type party to vote for (sans Tony). 

Absolutely this.  I voted Conservative the election before last and Labour last election.  I wish I had an option other than LD.

I abhor the idea of voting on the basis of how it affects one personally (unless drastic) as it is what is best for the counrty which should drive us

You are right.

Too many people think that voting is like Adam Smith’s market where everyone can choose their own preference and the magic hand (of supply and demand) leads to an optimal solution of prices and quantities. But this ain’t so 

Sounds like you are very similar to me.  Voting for Labour, leaving aside whether they can competently deliver what they promise, will hit the pocket.

Whereas the Tories are running education, health and public transport down and I don’t trust them to invest where they should or in fact not put taxes up.

I feel there’s a halfway house between the Tories’ fiscal tightness and the Labour over-spend and their respective auntishness but nobody good enough to fill that obvious gap.

The champagne socialist twot that I am.

OP - you are not alone in your assessment. It is painfully dismal and I think it is the sign of times when country is about to get fooked, merit in political class carks first

This is interesting. We think it abhorrent to vote in our own best interests but fully expect others to vote that way - thats’s what Lab want/expect, anyway. For the many (ie you). Vote for yourself. Dont worry about a minority.

That’s kinda what fooks me off about Labour’s position Minkie.  95% of people won’t be hit by the income tax hikes and the vast majority won’t be hit by the others either.  So it’s no charity on their part to vote Labour - all the funding will benefit them (as it will everybody, if Labour could actually do what they promise).  But if you’re in the 5% and you don’t want to fund it, you’re a baddie.  FFS.

I did the "what does Labour's tax hike cost you" thing and it was a fookload. 

Humblebrag yadayadayada. 

 

But if they spent it on making the country fairer rather than a mix of envy punishment and populist for poor people nationalisation I wouldn't mind. But all that wedge to pay my water bill to the state and save £300/year on broadband?

 

Go and shite. 

And the fooking Tories, pledging to spend sub £3bn, but on the other hand giving away £2.4bn by raising the NI threshold to give each household back...wait for it...85 quid a year.

i think u will find that the tozzas did this rather neat trick of announcing a big boost to spending on something but then not costing it

thereby fooling every1 into believing the big boost will happen with magic money

you know what? 

this country is being permafooked by the two main parties squeezing out the others with the lie "vote for us or them, or your vote won't count". 

voting isn't about being able to brag that you supported the winner. Look at the parties and vote for the one that most closely aligns to your views. 

 

it might be Lab, or Tory, or Green or Lib Dems. Just do that. 

That's not that easy though JM.  None of them come close to representing my views anymore.  I feel I have to vote LD or Green just to protest the morally bankrupt aunts heading the two main parties.

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