Most expensive team ever created (beating the cheats other records held on several other occasions), the highest ever watch bill, the most charges ever brought against a club, the most convictions against a premier League club, a racist manager caught cheating several times - all the in what others clubs have done entirely organically
That's before you mention the terrible crowd, the sportswashing, human rights abuses, playacting on the pitch and driving out of working classes from both the area and the stadium
Point of order: the team has not been ‘assembled’. That suggests simply buying expensive players annd paying them extreme wages and hoping it all comes together.
Best team of diving cheats to snatch yet another draw in living memory. They don't belong anywhere near this discussion.
They printed a load of 50 not out shirts back then before their humbling by Rooney and co then repeated that feat by printing a load of champions 23 shirts a couple of months ago.
Beyond the individual brilliance of Scholes and Rooney
the genius of Giggs, the precocious talent turning into world class of CR7, the Rio / Vidic perfect compliment, the relentless attacking ethos were all terrible obviously.
If you're adjusting for fitness / sports science over time then the 68 team with Stiles, Best, Kidd, Charlton, Law, Crerand etc was the best apparently. I was nowhere near alive to see them of course.
Would have been far cheaper and quicker to win a UCL the United way - local home grown players, fantastic managers, devoted and large fan base, beautiful football and heart stopping entertainment
On a sidenote, can anyone explain to me at what makes Grealish good?
I'm not disagreeing with the assessment of many top defenders who openly hate having to play him. But what is it that he does? Is it movement, harassing the defenders, vision? What? On football skills alone I struggle to see it.
He's becoming a very complete player, one of the first on the City teamsheet since the WC, which is no mean feat in itself. Seems to be able to carry out Pep's instructions to a tee now.
For me, at least, he's better defensively & more of a physical presence than Foden, can beat a man both going inside/outside, delivers off both sides very well. Can score & assist, is in now seemingly in tune with the other front players (KDB/Haaland). He's looking a very good buy, even at £100m.
I'm a bigger fan of Foden but can see the argument about physicality.
Not sure about "complete". I'd agree he does everything well, but nothing exceptionally well, other than maybe adding some energy/chaos into the mix. He's also not a traditional "Pep" player which probably throws me a little.
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What were the last three clubs you supported, Goatgash?
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Someone on here was saying you held yourself out as a Man Utd fan once upon a time. Sound like you?
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Agreed. And with a net spend in the last 5 years less than Man U, Chelsea, arsenal, spuds, villa etc.
Amazing really.
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Barca 2008-2010 were better.
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But this City one is right up there. Need a CL to really confirm it.
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Utd 2008 with Wazza, Tevez and CR7 up front was boss. Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Vidic, Rio, Hargreaves, Evra etc.
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Hard to ignore the RM team that won the CL three years running:
Navas, Caravajal, Ramos, Marcelo, Casemiro, Modric, Kroos, Bale, Benzema, Ronaldo, Isco, Asensio, Varane.
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Most expensive team ever created (beating the cheats other records held on several other occasions), the highest ever watch bill, the most charges ever brought against a club, the most convictions against a premier League club, a racist manager caught cheating several times - all the in what others clubs have done entirely organically
That's before you mention the terrible crowd, the sportswashing, human rights abuses, playacting on the pitch and driving out of working classes from both the area and the stadium
Call me old fashioned, but it's not for me
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The only thing that can said with any accuracy is even with this season's treble, this cheats team has woefully underperformed
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Hard to ignore the RM team that won the CL three years running:
Navas, Caravajal, Ramos, Marcelo, Casemiro, Modric, Kroos, Bale, Benzema, Ronaldo, Isco, Asensio, Varane.
Yep they won La Liga once during that time. Best team I have seen is Barc 09-11.
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Real's '02/03, original galacticos, with Figo, Zidane, Carlos, Ronaldo, Guti, Raul, etc were fun to watch.
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Don't disagree nextstop although I'd say La Liga is only hard to win if you're not RM or Barca...
Galacticos were epic. We were spoiled in that era.
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Interestingly this 'argument' only arises because the cheats smacked a Madrid team that can't even win la Liga and is woefully under funded
La Liga winners well beaten by the real Manchester club FAOD
So good to get some context
I don't think this cheats team is any better than the one mason mount cucked in the UCL a few years back
I guess one could argue anything though. Like the world being flat.
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Point of order: the team has not been ‘assembled’. That suggests simply buying expensive players annd paying them extreme wages and hoping it all comes together.
ManU assemble a team. Chelsea assemble a team.
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115 corruption charges to face for citheh. How quickly they might be disassembled eh?
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Cheats fans used to sing 'we want our club back'
Not sure they meant back in league one
Ps assembling turncucks for billions whilst proper teams build around home grown heroes like Rashford
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Peak Barcelona were dull as fvck to watch.
The "best" club teams ever in no order using 50:50 weight ability:aesthetic are:
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Best team of diving cheats to snatch yet another draw in living memory. They don't belong anywhere near this discussion.
They printed a load of 50 not out shirts back then before their humbling by Rooney and co then repeated that feat by printing a load of champions 23 shirts a couple of months ago.
Arsenal fans are the biggest mugs going.
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Idiots. Should have done the sensible thing and got a 49 not out tattoo before the utd game.
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No-one mentioning the glorious canaries of ‘93 featuring such fabulous players as Gunn, Bowen, Butterworth, Goss, Sutton etc? Surely in with a shout?
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Beyond the individual brilliance of Scholes and Rooney, I found peak Man U pretty dull as well. They were 90% Fergie grinding relentlessness.
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the genius of Giggs, the precocious talent turning into world class of CR7, the Rio / Vidic perfect compliment, the relentless attacking ethos were all terrible obviously.
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Brackley's glorious FA Trophy winners of 2018.
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Busby's United team had it all
They were the greatest
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What was the best ever United team. I'd want George Best but I'd also need Cantona and Beckham.
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I'd leave CR7 on the bench so I could watch him sulk.
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If you're adjusting for fitness / sports science over time then the 68 team with Stiles, Best, Kidd, Charlton, Law, Crerand etc was the best apparently. I was nowhere near alive to see them of course.
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Without that team, the cheats never exist
Football never dies
Ah crap, Busby killed football
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Here is an interesting stat
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Presumably that's just on players
The cheats have spent billions more all in
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Yes just players
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Shocking stuff
Would have been far cheaper and quicker to win a UCL the United way - local home grown players, fantastic managers, devoted and large fan base, beautiful football and heart stopping entertainment
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Some more interesting stats, this time about the 99 treble winning team
Recency bias is a hell of a drug
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hEre iS aN iNTErsTinG sTat
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triggered chinorder
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Sheringham
Solskjaer
Stam
Yorke
Cole
Schmeichel
Johnsen
Blomqvist
heh3
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(allowing for Rooney and Cristiano being largely "homegrown")
VDS
Ferdinand
Evra
Vidic
Hargreaves
Carrick
Tevez
Anderson
Nani
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Oh dear, pez dispenser is having a normal one.
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I just can't dislike utd. Best team outside of vanarama.
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On a sidenote, can anyone explain to me at what makes Grealish good?
I'm not disagreeing with the assessment of many top defenders who openly hate having to play him. But what is it that he does? Is it movement, harassing the defenders, vision? What? On football skills alone I struggle to see it.
General curiosity, not intended to trigger!
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He's becoming a very complete player, one of the first on the City teamsheet since the WC, which is no mean feat in itself. Seems to be able to carry out Pep's instructions to a tee now.
For me, at least, he's better defensively & more of a physical presence than Foden, can beat a man both going inside/outside, delivers off both sides very well. Can score & assist, is in now seemingly in tune with the other front players (KDB/Haaland). He's looking a very good buy, even at £100m.
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I'm a bigger fan of Foden but can see the argument about physicality.
Not sure about "complete". I'd agree he does everything well, but nothing exceptionally well, other than maybe adding some energy/chaos into the mix. He's also not a traditional "Pep" player which probably throws me a little.
Deserves his place in the team, unquestionably.
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