Clear from the discussion the other day that football peaked in 1996. Let’s have your 1990s dream teams. Mine:
Schmeichel
Thuram Sammer Costacurta Lizarazu
Redondo
Rui Costa Zidane Hagi
Stoichkov Ronaldo (fat)
subs
Kahn
Maldini
Ince
Baggio
Batistuta
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1. Ace thread
2. Will give this some consideration
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Schmeichel
Cafu Matthaus Desailly Maldini
Zidane Davids Seedorf
Litmanen
Shearer (C) Ronaldo (fat)
Honourable mentions:
Del Piero
Baggio
Baresi
Donadoni
Batistuta
and yes, i get that Desailly was more a CM than a CB in the 90s but i wanted him in there.
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my team would of course have a total melt down within a week due to having two dutch egotists bossing the midfield
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Important Q.
Schmeichel
Cafu Baresi Thuram Maldini
Sammer Keane
Baggio Zidane Rivaldo
Stoichkov
Subs
Romario
Bergkamp
Costacurta
Pagliuca
Veron
Davids
Ronaldo
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“and yes, i get that Desailly was more a CM than a CB in the 90s”
Odd that you make that comment of Desailly when people are playing Matthaus and Sammer at CB on the same thread. Desailly was more of a career CB than either of those two who were really both sweepers, but the kind of sweeper that sits in front of the defence not behind.
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Desailly did his best work for Milan as a deep lying CM though.....
Agreed RE Matthaus and Sammer who were your typical sweepers. Swap Matthaus for Baresi in my team.
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Schmeichel
Cafu, Sammer Desailly Maldini
Makelele
Beckham Zidane Rivaldo
Fat Ronaldo Romario
Subs:
Kahn
Thuram
Matthaus
Figo
Shearer
Baggio
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So many good forward in the 90s
No room even in my match day squad for Batistuta, Shearer, Sheringham, Vialli, Klinsmann
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Will need to give it some thought - no Van Basten - although his career was pretty much over by 1993
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Lol at picking Zidane over Neil Redfearn
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The main problem with most of these sides (defensive structure aside) is that there are more than few players inclined to lose their shit and stamp on somebody...
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Jason Dozzell has got to be a bit miffed at missing the cut here.
Bit harsh on Deschamps and Vieira too.
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This is easy.
Schmeichel
G Nev, Stam, Pallister, Irwin
Becks, Keano, Scholes, Giggs
Cantona and Ole Solskjaer
None of that foreign muck
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Schmeichel
Cafu Baresi Stam Maldini
Redondo Keane
Rivaldo Mathaus Overmars
Ronaldo
Subs:
Khan
Desailly
Thurman
Baggio
Bergkamp
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Although you could split it into early 90s and mid to late 90s as Baresi was done by about 96/97 and Stam was more prominent late 90s.
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Fair point Bongo
the likes of Nedved would walk into a late 90s team
waiting some scouse twot to propose Steve mcmanaman
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https://youtu.be/XsZkCFoqSBs
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Heh @ the obvious Arsenal fan above.
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Early 90s team:
Shilton
Jorginho Baresi Kohler Brehme
Rijkaard
Boban M Laudrup Waddle
Van Basten Klinsmann
Subs (only 3 in those days)
Gullit
Platt
Preud’homme
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Schmeichel
Cafu Baresi Koeman Maldini
Keane
Baggio Zidanne Giggs
Ronaldo Van Basten
Subs:
Heguita (just cause he would be ace)
Desailly
Bergkamp
Stam
Roger Mila (he was the ultimate sub and that dance)
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Chanadaler mate, did you mean to post that on the other thread?
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Litmanen not getting enough love on here imo
he was the main man in that class Ajax team
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Great player, not sure he can displace Hagi or Stoichkov though
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Chanadaler mate, did you mean to post that on the other thread?
I posted before I saw the other thread.
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Thinking about it I’m sure we all meant to include Michael Laudrup somewhere so I have mentally done that in every team.
u r welcome
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For me it was a tough call between Hagi and Giggs. Hagi was incredible in the tournies but his hot temper affected his club career. Giggsi played for Wales.
Stoichkov was a forward and there were so many good ones. I added van Basten up front but left out Gullit, who played well into mid 90s.
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the Leeds Utd 1991/2 starting 11
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Lol @ Ryan flat track bully Giggs
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Genuinely shocked Rob Lee hasn’t had a mention yet though
or some Man Utd supporting tede banging the Paul scholes drum
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Wellers your list includes Seedorf, Litmanen, fvcking Shearer (also as captain) and Donadoni.
I may give you Seedorf but Litmanen never replicated his Ajax form. Shearer scored lots of goals as long as opponents had a weak defender, no other striker went for the ball and all the crosses landed in front of him. Captained some of England's worst performances. I liked Donadoni but there were better midfielders even in the Italian side of his time.
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one of the most laughably bad comments ever seen on Rof.
blackburn era Shearer was the most complete striker the PL has ever seen
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I think you can justify Shearer as he was the top scorer at Euro 96. Wouldn’t be my choice but there we are.
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He scored over 30 goals a season for 3 season consecutively ffs
if he hadn’t got seriously injured after his first season at Newcastle he would have scored over 20 goals a season for a decade
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Sort of on topic but perhaps not quite: Dennis Bergkamp must have a place in any top XI over any period. The Newcastle goal was funny. The Argentina goal was amazing. But I loved him at Arsenal for his ability to combine sublime skills and nasty little digs and elbows. He was the best IMO and not just in England.
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The pl wasn’t exactly the strongest league around in those days though Wellers. Would have been interesting to see how he would have got on in Italy or Spain but I don’t think was ever on the cards
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I stand firmly behind my comment on Shearer. He was the best English striker at the time but at one point he was playing with Heskey as his sidekick (lol). At club level the forrin clubs never came for him because everyone knew he was less of a team player. Used to bully players and managers. Steve Mcmanaman, Gazza, Platt and even Paul Ince managed to sell themselves to Serie A or La Liga clubs (who were just throwing money around in those days).
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You’re a fooking idiot. Shearer and Heskey started one game together for England.
pre injury he would have dominated any league in the world. Pace, power and finishing, he had all of it.
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(0s football was well over rated tbh
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Van Basten is my favourite player ever, but I wouldn’t put him in a 90s XI because, well, he didn’t really do much in the 90s.
Stam and Rijkaard both have strong claims to edge Thuram out of my team.
I‘d have to agree that if you were looking second half of 90s then the team would look v different. Something like:
First half (4-3-3 Schmeichel, Panucci Baresi Rijkaard Maldini, Sammer, Keane, M Laudrup, Baggio, Stoichkov, Romario
Second half (4-2-3-1): Schmeichel, Cafu, Stam, Thuram, Maldini, Nedved, Keane, Zidane, Del Piero, Rivaldo, F. Ronaldo
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Any keepers other than schmeichel worth a mention?
and yes I’m think of pavel srnicek
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Pagliuca, certainly. I was not really a massive Kahn fan, it’s not that I think he had any major flaws but I’m not sure what was so great about him. The three dominant international sides of the era - France. Brazil and, in the first half of the decade, Germany - didn’t really have standout keepers. I think Schmeichel was in gold for the World for pretty much the entire decade.
England had great depth of goalkeeping talent in that era - four or five keepers of international class - but no true greats.
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Craig James
Craig Hignett
Craig Liddle
Craig Davies
Craing Gardner
Craig Johnston
Craig Farrell
Craig Jones
Craig Curran
Craig Bellamy
on the bench: Craig Dayyyy-vid
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Schmeichel
Zanetti Baresi Costacurta Maldini
Matthaus
Baggio Zidane Del Piero
Batigol Ronaldo
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Need to think carefully about this.
However, two dreadful shouts in there.
Costacurta as the Italian centre half? Baresi and Nesta way ahead of him. Not to mention Ciro Ferrara. However, I also had a soft spot for Paulo Montero so he might partner Baresi in my team.
Makelele. In the 90's? The Nantes, Marseille and Celta Vigo version?
I'm not sure I'd have Hristo as a lone CF either but that's not particularly dreadful
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I do appreciate Montero is not Italian.
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Fair point re Makelele. I'll replace him with Keane
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Stoichkov was eminently capable of being a lone CF. He’d be more suited to being the roaming, false-nining attacking pivot in a modern 4-2-3-1 than a pure target man, but fook it, if you wanted to whack 50yd balls to him in the air, he’d pick them up; he cut his teeth in Bulgarian league football fgs
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p.s. wasn’t Nesta at school in the 90s
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Nesta was good at the end of the 90s, but his best years were in the 2000s. And Cannavaro was better over comparable years.
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Costacurta was a superb defender, a great organiser and comfortable on the ball. V highly rated by his teammates as well which is always a good sign. I picked him over Baresi as I think by 1990 his best days were behind him.
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agreed, I don’t see the problem with nominating Billy
By the end of his career he was almost as good a player as peak Baresi tbh
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Baresi played until the 1996 / 1997 season. I would still rate him better than Costacurta.
My all time list is
Gianluca Pagliuca
Baresi Sammer Maldini
Matthaus Effenberg
Baggio Lentini laudrup
Romario Ronaldo
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Nesta had played 130 Serie A games by the end of the 99/00 season. However, he didn't move to Milan until 2002 so point accepted on best football being in the 00's (probably last 2 seasons at Lazio and first couple at Milan).
Costacurta was clearly not capable of being selected as one of the top two CB's of the 90's.
My team:
GK: Schmeichel
LB: Maldini
RB: Zanetti
CB: Baresi
CB: Montero
DM: Matthaus
DM: Keane
AM: Savicevic
AM: Zidane
AM: M Laudrup
CF: Ronaldo
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Lentini!? You mad?
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I am interested in his story so i've had a soft spot for him.
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Actus your team contains two walking red cards, sort it out
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In that side, if I was going to replace anyone it would be Keane. Potentially for the Water Carrier or, to go ultra creative, Prosinecki
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Lots of decent DM in that era when you think of it. Redondo, Dunga, Wim Jonk, Rijkaard, Simeone
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Surprised no one has mentioned Figo as far as I can see.
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noughties player
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Apart from the Barca euro cup win in ‘96 ?
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Figo def straddled the decade
See also Mendieta who was a glorious player
heh @ montero. Angry little man
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He was a fabulous defender though Wellington. Could play a bit too.
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Ryan Giggs:
"Paolo Montero and Ciro Ferrara of Juventus were the toughest defenders I played against. It was: ‘The ball might go past us but you’re not’. It was old school. I remember at Old Trafford once, starting out on the right, cutting in, beating two Juventus players and I could see Montero. I cut inside him and he just lifted his leg up and I went flying. I looked up and he was just jogging back. It was nothing to him. I don’t think he even got booked."
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Schmeicel
Cafu – Maldini – Baresi – Roberto Carlos
Davids – Zidane
Barnes -------------------------- Del Piero
Romario – Fowler
Slightly attacking formation featuring Zidane in the "Alonso" role
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K8 Moss as cheerleader
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Honourable mentions to Buffon and Toldo
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Fowler! Not a choice to sniff at.
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Fowler in the late 90s was peak football
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Yes that's why I said not a choice to sniff at. Of course.
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Giles Barnes didn't make his debut until 2005
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Lol @ actus
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