Would you uninvent the internet if you could?

Me: yes, probably

I actually think the world is going mad through too much instant ill thought through angry internet shouting

and imagine how great legal practice would be if you had to send letters via the post instead of emails

the internet, no (from someone who remembers what work was like in the 90s without it)

'social media', maybe

they weren't just sent by post they were sent by fax and before that there were about 6 posts a day in central London so life was not quite as slow moving as we would like to imagine.

No

Life was boring and isolating and I would never have had any of my best experiences if not for the internet

This is what emancipation looks like

Pros of the internet:

- order pizza without getting up

- talk nonsense on message boards

Cons of the internet:

- novel ways for children to pick on each other

- talk nonsense on message boards

People are more lonely now, they look all happy on insta but in truth no one to talk to

I got laid, but didn’t make any actual friends on rof and fb which is the only social Media i frequent

In all seriousness, the Information Superhighway turned out to be a bit of a disappointment didn't it? Rather than enlightening the world it seems to have given more avenues to mislead and propagandize

Apart from Amazon, eBay and free porn, the internet hasn't made anyone's life better.  And email is a fucking curse.

Most of the bad shit people attribute to social media existed before, but people blamed it on different things.

Kids know how to handle the internet, its really pernicious, widespread effects have been on boomers who cannot deal with it at all. 

BR: how have those things made people's lives better? In the old days we had to go to shops and talk to people and order books which took a week to arrive and coyly buy a copy of razzle from the local newsagent and generally not buy so much shit

it was fine

Yes, but I'm not a boomer, have grown up with it (professionally) since its inception and still think it's a bad thing.  It gives you no downtime (unless you are very disciplined about how you use your devices), social media is an addictive waste of time, and email has become a way of transferring responsibility (you have received an email therefore the ball is in your court) without the sender having to do tedious things like follow up.  All pernicious and harmful stuff.

And no, kids really don't know how to handle the internet, because they lack the circumspection of having a basis for comparison because they weren't born before it existed.

I would have thought one good thing is that it has allowed people to meet other suitable people, whether that be a life partner, or friends with similar interests, rather than having to make do with the random people you happen to meet in your day to day life.

That is a good thing Guy but it is counterbalanced by the fact that people now pay less attention to the people in their own real lives. Probably this means we fail to develop relationships we otherwise might have.

Christ imagine being such an utter twat that you want to plunge the millions of those kept in the dark by tyranny from the freedom of information and expression that they can now get from the internet.  Far better when they had to try and listen to r4 world service and die in silence. 

 

Apart from Amazon, eBay and free porn, the internet hasn't made anyone's life better. 

 

Well this will make for an interesting conversation when you go back to MJJ tonight.

Wibble, do you really think that those in the most oppressed parts of the world have freedom to access information, even though they have the internet?  Or is it more likely that that access is carefully passed through state-controlled filters of orthodoxy?  How is that any better than having no internet at all?

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Me: yes, probably

I actually think the world is going mad through too much instant ill thought through angry internet shouting

and imagine how great legal practice would be if you had to send letters via the post instead of emails

 

 

"OMG OMG, we have a letter. Let's take several days, nay weeks, to respond to it."

I met my girl in a disco

plenty of online dating did not entail long term relationships 

Yeah the internet has really destroyed tyranny in China hasn't it.

And no, kids really don't know how to handle the internet, because they lack the circumspection of having a basis for comparison because they weren't born before it existed.

What a fucking weird argument. Does this apply to everything? I'm pretty sure you weren't alive before the pen or the printing press were invented, yet you've still managed to get to grips with the way these ruthlessly invasive communications technologies affect your life. 

not full access no, but still 53 million times more access than they had before. 

 

hth

 

No because if I did then I'd have to do something else for a living seeing as the majority of my skillset relies on the ability to extend the internet

“And no, kids really don't know how to handle the internet, because they lack the circumspection of having a basis for comparison because they weren't born before it existed.”

What, so nobody can learn to handle anything that was invented before they were born? So, for instance, nobody on here should be driving a car. Sorry what?

Me: no. We're in a bit of a learning curve I suspect but time will tell.