why r there no right wing comedians?
The Oracle of Delphi 15 Jul 19 19:58
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i mean there might be one or two, but they’re not any good and even the exceptions kind of just prove the rule

is it because right wingers are massively humourless, pessimistic and can’t laugh at themselves or with others?

Because audiences at fringe events are right on and left wing, and this is where the BBC lazily  finds them and inflicts them on the licence fee payer

Pleased that critics are apparently  backing off covering the Edinburgh festival ,hated anyway by Edinburgh rate payers

They cannot be outraged/angry and laughing at the same time. 

It's like telling them fiscal responsibility and Keynesian economics are both possible. #mindexplosion

I remember Ben Elton talking about this back when he was doing standup.  

Back in the old days it was just “thatcher our, thatcher out, shit, shit, bollocks, vote labour!”

But after labour got elected it became a little more tricky really.  And as labour has evolved even more so. 

The last demonstrably right wing comedian I can remember was ‘nick nick’ Jim Davidson...

Maybe when magic grandpa gets elected we will we some new ones.

To be fair though comedians are equally harsh when it comes to left wing politicians. They just enjoy roasting anyone that gives them the right materials. Clinton was the butt of many jokes for a long time. Rory Bremner used to do a great TB impersonation. 

I for my sins have been called Joey Deacon and it has been stated by womenfolk who, I might guess, would know such things, that I am meanly and most uncharitably proportioned downstairs and other unmentionable horrid things about my appendage - this is punching down and we all do it so let's have less of the 'I never laugh at those less privileged' becoz you kno it ain't true amen.

exceptions that prove the rule tbh. one or two, sure, but a stark absence

plus with the gr7est respect shooty ur judgement is notoriously dreadful in all things so u’ll no doubt forgive me if i test ur measure of v funny with due caution

In my past life on the comedy circuit, which was mostly student shows, the outlier was a gig at a working men's club with a right-wing working class audience. 

Speaking to people after the show, one bloke said to me, "that was pretty funny, but could have done with some paki jokes in there."

Probably tells you why you don't see too much right-wing comedians breaking out, particularly when your mate Dave down the pub is so good with that fare anyway.

Probably because whilst we always will have a righ and left hand side of the road.....the road is always bending to the left.

 

I see myself as relatively centrist and try to make sure I make an effort to understand differing opinions the overall direction over the years seems to be leftwards. 

 

The thing that is scary at this current time is the fact that we are perhaps in a chicane, so it looks like the road is beginningt to head right a little but that is only on the micro...in the macro it is still heading left.

 

Its like those funny roundabouts in Milton Keynes where you feel like you are going the wrong way around a roundabout

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0006m46

 

Once upon a time, everyone thought it would be very jolly to bring back the award-winning comedian Geoff Norcott for a Radio 4 show marking 100 days since the UK left the EU. We’ll have to save that idea for another day - obvs - so instead Geoff, one of the few people in the country who will be able to vote for our next Prime Minister, is going to look at how Brexit has changed the way we define ourselves and the past years of withdrawal disagreement. He often wonders how a council estate kid with two disabled left wing parents ended up leaning to the right as one of the very few Tory stand ups on the comedy circuit. He has been described as being "situated at the (hitherto little-known) loveable end of the Conservative spectrum." Geoff’s previous Radio 4 show won the BBC Best Comedy Award 2019. He is one of the stars of The Mash Report and appears regularly on Question Time. He writes for national publications with articles appearing in The Sunday Telegraph, The Independent and The New Statesman. He writes regularly for other comedians including Sarah Millican, Romesh Ranganathan and Katherine Ryan. Geoff was awarded an Operational Services Medal for five frontline tours entertaining the troops in Afghanistan.

 

And:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00071ly

Working-class Tory and Leave-voting comedian Geoff Norcott is on a mission to expose the avocado-munching, middle-class hypocrisy that he believes is ruining Britain.

For Geoff, the Brexit vote showed how one group of people have had their way for far too long. The Middle Classes have been living in their bubble pretending to care about the wider society, while all the time working the system to make sure they stay a few rungs up the ladder.

Geoff believes a classic example of this can be seen in our schools. Middle-class liberals claim to love our comprehensive school system, as it’s meant to give everyone an equal start in life. But this is where the frappuccino crowd start to show their true colours as they throw their ethics out of the window and begin to play their games. The Sutton Trust found that the top 500 comprehensive schools in England are highly socially selective, taking just 9.4 per cent of pupils eligible for free school meals – around half the average. Having met a priest who tells him how middle-class parents join their local churches and pretend to believe in God in order to get their kids into the best faith schools, Geoff discovers that singing along to hymns is just the tip of the iceberg. One local authority, Havering Council on the Essex border, even employ a team of super-sleuths to catch parents who come up with all sorts of rubbish to qualify for their preferred school. Geoff is appalled but not surprised - '... nicking the best school places is their version of benefit fraud.'

Geoff sees gentrification as another prime example of middle-class hypocrisy - as young professionals, bars, take over cities and keep ordinary working people at arm's length. In Manchester, the city centre is going through a building boom, with sw**ky apartments going up everywhere. The majority of these new developments have no ‘affordable’ housing built, which the leader of the opposition in Manchester City Councils says is due to a policy of ‘social cleansing’ – something the council denies.

In Deptford, south east London, Geoff meets hard left activists who are opposed to the local council’s plans to regenerate the area. Geoff, a Tory, struggles to fit in as he joins the left-wing protesters on a march and then witnesses a bizarre, symbolic salt ceremony. Here, he can see both sides of the argument - how regeneration can improve the look of an area and increase an individual’s house price, but at the same time he sees the anguish caused to existing residents who are having their community changes in ways they may not like.

Geoff continues on his journey through the world of dating. He meets the founder of a dating app designed exclusively for the cream of the middle class - people who were privately educated. While he learns that ordering Chateaubriand might impress ‘posh girls’, he discovers that according to the latest stats, the chances of settling down with someone from a different class is becoming increasingly difficult. And when it comes to politics, Geoff meets Labour MP Gloria De Piero and learns how working-class voices have become marginalised and ignored. Finally, Geoff puts on a private gig for some NUS (National Union of Students) leaders to find out why his style of white working-class comedy doesn’t get booked by university campuses. Needless to say his material doesn’t go down well.

Surely the answer is that the arts attracts people who are inclined to the left and less capitalist whereas us right wingers are too busy bossing the dolla and being lords of capitalism to bother with stuff like acting.

Michael McIntyre 

hugh dennis

jimmy car

miranda hart

you can tell they are massive Tories but they are bound to say 'I'm not party political' cos they don't want to lose any audience. Basically 50 % of comedians (and more of the rich ones) will be conservative voters. 

 

Geoff believes a classic example of this can be seen in our schools. Middle-class liberals claim to love our comprehensive school system, as it’s meant to give everyone an equal start in life. But this is where the frappuccino crowd start to show their true colours as they throw their ethics out of the window and begin to play their games. The Sutton Trust found that the top 500 comprehensive schools in England are highly socially selective, taking just 9.4 per cent of pupils eligible for free school meals – around half the average. Having met a priest who tells him how middle-class parents join their local churches and pretend to believe in God in order to get their kids into the best faith schools, Geoff discovers that singing along to hymns is just the tip of the iceberg. One local authority, Havering Council on the Essex border, even employ a team of super-sleuths to catch parents who come up with all sorts of rubbish to qualify for their preferred school. Geoff is appalled but not surprised - '... nicking the best school places is their version of benefit fraud.'

 

This Geoff chap seems to be a bit stupid.  His response to the above is to... be a Tory.

Anybody remember that program they launched as sort of a response to the daily show, the flipside or something? It was absolutely unwatchable, and mainly showed that if you try to do ideology first, comedy second, it will become painfully unfunny. I believe there are a lot of comedians that have conservative views, but they don’t make them their shtick - bit hard to get raucous laughter for most conservative policies, outside of Mar a Lago maybe...

hanners m7, no offence, but i cant be arsed to read ur tribute to norcott

the only thing i would say is that norcott makes such a big deal about being the only tozza comedian, most ppl assume he actually isn’t and it’s just part of the act, other than i guess gullible tozzas desperate to find someone like them as a comedian

but more to the point, hanners m7, u r the most humourless person alive, ur practically a gorgon, so not realistically a valuable judge of funny

stardust16 Jul 19 08:59

You think the left isn't about control?!

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there is no ideological difference between Jeremy Corbyn, John MacDonald, Goldman Sachs, Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg

left and right are just football team scarves for people playing the same game to the same rules for the same result

there are a lot of liberatarian comedians; Bill Hicks, Frankie Boyle, Doug Stanhope but they tend to be funny because they are railing against a conservative establishment. 

Geoff Norcott makes some good observations but are they right wing? he seems to be essentially arguing for working class unionisation in most of his segments and pushing back against the wealthy (although he seems to go out of his way to absolve the ultra wealthy)

Why should the response be to vote Labour? That's not a party-political point is it? You can bet plenty of those parents vote Labour.

 

Because left-wingers want to make things better for people, even if they use all available workarounds to their kids' advantage.  The conservative party wants to starve the poor and throttle state schools into closing one day a week, whilst winding down and selling off all public services.

There is this right Wing comedian in the US , saw a show once where he recommends not to worry about national debt as the US can simply refuse to pay it back thanks to its military...

Bless Threepwood - he's just done the key stage 3 politics module at his junior school. - did u stick some dried spaghetti to a piece of crepe paper which symbolises the inherently oppressive nature of private property and take it home to show mummy and daddy? Good boy.

Hot now 16 Jul 10:08. some comedians/ennes might be closet Tories. Generally, though, many right-wingers of the suburban Telegraph/Daily Heil, golf and church are prudish, priggish and lack a sense of irony (I have known many of these types). Furthermore, as these types are the target of satire (and their American counterparts), as well as politicians (of all parties), they cannot 'attack' themselves.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17813698.right-on-right-wing-comedy-turning-conservative/

"...There are some venues that don’t book me. One venue has taken a stand and won’t book anyone who’s right-wing. I was told by the venue in Perth “this is an inclusive place, you have to leave” but how is it inclusive then?"

"...There is a trend now, though, towards right-wing comedians and Brexit has been the turning point – a lot of comedians have come out of the closet. However, there’s an authoritarian left and its figureheads are Owen Jones [columnist and commentator] and people like that, who say: you cannot think that, you cannot say that. It’s almost like a religion and anyone who utters thoughts that deviate from it are ex-communicated."

"...My feelings about free speech are not driven by something I read on the internet – they are driven by what happened to my family. My grandfather was arrested and exiled from the Soviet Union in 1979 for saying that the invasion of Afghanistan was wrong – it was something that everybody thought but you weren’t supposed to say. I know just how important freedom of expression is and when I ask audiences if they think it is more dangerous to say what they think than it was ten years ago, often more than half the audience say yes and that is not a healthy direction of travel."

maybe the q should have actually been:

y do right wingers always howl and whine about free speech (even though they really just mean freedom for their own speech, their mindset is too selfish to care about others’) when they could just admit right wingers just simply r not capable of funny?

bit wordy but u get the biscuit

The answer to the question is obvious: because comedy now is seen as a form of political activism, rather than just making gags. For obvious reasons, most political agitators are going to be radical.

that would only make sense if historically there had been right wing comedians

but there haven’t really been any of note or many in gr7 numbers

right wingers since the dawn of time just have not been funny