My experience was miserable. Utterly soul destroying miserable.
This time of year when sun was completely blotted out by grey cloud. The rain. The constant rain.
And the miserable hours. Everyone I worked with was actually reasonably nice. I didn't ever work with arseh1oles. Everyone, outside business services, were genuinely intelligent and friendly people.
But I'd never leave the office. I didn't take a holiday once for over 10 months. I was working every weekend - just something, even it was just replying to a few emails, I'd have to get my laptop out, dig out documents. A simple question would take 15-30 minutes to answer. And it was the strain of that time of my weekend just gone.
I'd be in the supermarket, and need to urgently reply to something, so I'd come back home and reply in 10 minutes, and then have to go back to the supermarket to do my groceries.
I'd leave anything between 8-2am every night but for Fridays. I had grey hairs from the stress (which I confirm have now gone btw - lack of stress and eating well).
I can't deal with commuting and lived either within walking distance or 20 minutes public transport of the office. And everywhere in that range is miserable to live in.
EVERYONE was doing it for the money. NO ONE WAS THAT RICH. The average 6-8 PQE had saved 250-350k in their entire lifespan of working mostly in US firms, although money wasn't quite what it is now despite COL going up. Associates live in grim dreary 1-2 bed flats, fight through the rain to go to their 12-14 hour a day jobs.
Sitting in a chair. Never moving. My average steps a day were under 5k.
Then I came to Dubai. I make ridiculous amounts compared to US lawyers back in London. I work half the hours. My apartment is I think over 2000-2500 square feet. I'm in work in 10 minutes. No public transport. Crammed into a tin can with sweaty miserable khunts.
I'd get so angry at the littlest things in the morning - if someone looked at me the wrong way, pushed into me, whilst I was running late and had 20 emails to respond to. I fantasised about murdering people on the buses and tube. No more of that.
I spend my weekends on boats with unlimited food and alcohol. Beach clubs. Gyms. I'm nearly in the best shape of my life. I come back to London in the summer for nearly 3 months, and as soon as I get there, I see the necessary people, before flying out to mainland Europe - usually somewhere in Spain or Italy.
I can never come back to London in PP, and I am told this by ex colleagues. And when I talk to them about their lives, it's just a stream of misery. I say, why don't you come out to Dubai? "What...and give up all this?" they say.
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You are certainly confused, sun.
lots of these companies have technologies that may have been designed somewhere and then built somewhere else. That design work is still valuable.
Im surprised anyone could think that the U.K. economy is just the city and the housing market.
that is quite scary as a prospect.
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This again, again.
I will copy and paste my previous copied and pasted post.
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This again. Copying and pasting my two dirhams worth from a previous thread (addressed to a roffette thinking of moving to Dubai).
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Dubai is great fun.
It is flashy and showy but there are other sides to it. The desert is lovely and there is some really good hiking in RAK (1.5 hours’ drive away). If you are into sport there are loads of fantastic facilities which are cheap (free) and easily accessible. The Al Qudra bike track in the desert is superb.
It is expensive but no worse than London.
Pre-Covid you could fly back to London very easily and cheaply. How that will pan out I do not know.
The net net tax benefit makes a massive difference – you just have more money. Of course money is not everything so if you are naturally unhappy and a dullard then you will remain so (just richer). If you are happy and creative it gives you the freedom to do lots of fun stuff (or buy more stuff if that is what you like doing).
People tend to be welcoming and positive because they are rarely long off the plane themselves and they have made the leap to move somewhere new.
If you are a hot then there will be more than enough blokes (admittedly of varying quality) vying to bang you. If you are not hot there will still be lots of blokes who want to bang you because there is a shortage of single women who are not insta models / prostitutes.
You get less provincial bullsh1t than you get in the UK.
No one sneers at you for having a 4x4 because everyone has one. No one says “oh but they have a 4x4 and it never goes off road” because: (i) often it does go off road; and (ii) no one gives a fvck – you can spend your money how you like and no one is judgmental about it.
The multiculturism is ace.
It is very safe. No one will steal your stuff.
Downsides are that it is a totalitarian state and deviation from the agreed norms is punished harshly. As a female property solicitor who is interested men you will be well well well within the green zone of agreed norms.
There is no safety net and ultimately you have no rights. Lose your job and you are out. Unless you set up on your own in which case it is all on you – no state education and no state health care.
Despite what you read in the press you can shag away to your hearts content (just not in public which is fair enough), get sh1t faced whenever you like but no drooogs though mkay.
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Please try not to rude or immature [sic] , RR: it lowers the tone, and diminishes your credibility. To perform better, at least try to attempt to make logical, evidenced arguments. Ad hominem attacks on people simply because their arguments make you feel unhappy - and you lack the facts to rebut them - simply reflects poorly on you. Many thanks."
Please try not to be a pompous arsehole, Mountain. The long-winded "arguments" you have put forward are sixth form debating society level.
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I actually agree with Biggie that the Doobz lifestyle sounds ok if you’re male and unattached.
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That does a disservice to 'ok'.
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Thanks, Josip: very constructive, well done. Same to you as I said to RR.
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Relevant article from Matthew Parris in Friday's Times. Emphases added, focusing exclusively on long-term issues which will remain in, say, 2 years' time, by which point I hope to have escaped the UK.
thetimes.co.uk/article/were-about-to-wake-up-to-the-mess-were-in-0d6tkcpjk
Problems keep mounting but the PM has no bearings, ministers betray confusion and voters are starting to sense panic
Matthew Parris
Friday October 15 2021, 9.00pm, The Times
We’re going to the dogs. We haven’t quite woken up to the mess we’re in yet, but we will. In the unconscious mind of the nation the dots are all there, waiting to be joined up. When the connections are made, and as his Marbella tan begins to peel, the aimless occupant of 10 Downing Street will be in for a shock.
Let me identify some of the dots. There is no other way but to hit you with a sample, but before I do, please understand this: I’m very well aware that at almost any point in the political cycle of almost any government, it would be possible to compile a depressing list of things going wrong. Things do. Some will be random, unrelated. Some will be, by any reasonable judgment, beyond the power of any prime minister to predict or control. Others will be trivial when taken in isolation. Many may be transient. But accumulated they paint a worrying picture. We’ve all of us in the sleepless hours made lists of problems and begun to feel overwhelmed by their weight. So may a nation. We add things up.
The first skill demanded of any effective leader is the talent to stop people adding things up; to raise our eyes to the longer term; a place we’re aiming for, a plan for getting there. Thatcher had it: bearings. Johnson lacks them.
Try this next time you’re in a lurching railway carriage: meander down the aisle — you’ll find yourself jolted off your balance. Now try striding fast, your eye fixed on the carriage’s end. The faster you walk, the straighter you’ll be able to go. It’s all about the stabilising force of momentum. It’s a truth of Newtonian physics.
It’s a truth of political leadership too. Watching The New Labour Revolution on TV I was struck by something Peter Mandelson said: “The single most important thing for a political party is for the dominating agenda to be the one you set.” Fail to set that goal and direction, and voters will start looking around themselves at the immediate. They will start adding things up.
Here’s a few. Petrol queues may have faded but future confidence in being able to fill up at any time and anywhere has been rocked. Motorists took fright. We feel it could happen again.
The new queues are of ships at ports such as Felixstowe. Pictures of acres of unfetched containers have put the wind up retailers and consumers alike as Christmas approaches. A first-world problem? First-world governments are elected to take first-world problems seriously. Johnson appears not to.
We’re short of up to 100,000 HGV drivers. Nobody knows how this may hit us in the months ahead and it doesn’t sound as if the PM does. Saying “pay them more” while failing to attract visa applications from the Continent looks pitiful.
What next? Groceries? The catering industry (already blighted by post-Brexit labour shortages)? Farmers? Factories? The courts system (60,000 cases awaiting trial)? Online retailers’ deliveries? Nobody knows which, how badly, or for how long. It spooks us.
So do gas prices: some say rising to as much as £2,000 for the average household. Ministers have had to deny there may be power cuts. Will price rises feed through into inflation, mortgage costs? I’m old enough to remember both the anxieties and the animosities when some are clobbered by, others protected from, inflation.
And now Tory MPs are falling out over calls for government subsidy for hard-hit energy-hungry manufacturers. Most of our corporate suppliers of domestic gas and electricity face bankruptcy: 13 have gone under already. Meanwhile the Treasury calls the business secretary a liar for claiming the two were discussing state intervention. How is this looking for overseas investors?
We may be emerging from a nasty spat with the EU over the Northern Ireland protocol, leaving the European Court of Justice still at the apex of arbitration, a ridiculous fuss over sausages, and Johnson’s chief negotiator’s dangerous stoking up of sectarian tensions. The Democratic Unionist Party, foolishly marched to the top of the hill, are left to fume.
And the NHS! More than five million delayed operations, cancer services overwhelmed, and an uneasy feeling that the whole structure is in trouble, with GPs the latest in the firing line. Add that to the care homes sector, which (beyond their present critical shortage of staff) can find little in the prime minister’s long promised “plan”. Last year’s coronavirus deaths were kick-started in care homes. The wretched story of care for the elderly has only just begun.
There’s no space here to talk about a collapse in confidence in the police, the impending failure of the Cop26 conference in Glasgow, illegal immigrants crossing the Channel, the inability of the Home Office to keep track of migrants whose political asylum claims are refused, our chronic failure to process such claims with dispatch, the tension between “green” policy, energy security and the householder’s purse, the chill in the Anglo-US relationship, the breakdown of our relations with France, or the cupboard — still bare — of “great new trade deals around the world” ...
Suffice it to say we scent panic at the heart of government. Above the voters’ heads floats an unsettled sense of official confusion. Ministers seem to be making speeches, but pulling levers connected to nothing.
Fate created Boris Johnson to be a prime minister for good times. They are not good and getting worse. Stones will be thrown at government from all directions, but until the present widespread but diffusive feeling of public unease focuses into some kind of diagnosis of the core problem, Johnson may loiter, capering for the media, in Downing Street.
The core problem is him. Directionless and without momentum now Brexit is done and Covid survived, Johnson is a giggling impediment to the unifying sense of political momentum that Mandelson describes. It may be his insouciance itself that brings him down.
But who will inherit? Does Sir Keir Starmer display that all-consuming sense of purpose that Johnson lacks but Tony Blair (for instance) possessed? Hardly. Might Rishi Sunak restore to the Tories their Thatcherite pride in good housekeeping? Perhaps, but it feels old-fashioned now, inadequate to the hour.
A feeling persists that there’s an unoccupied place at the centre of our politics. “Levelling up” won’t hack it, and may soon attract the scorn that “the Big Society” finally invited. Politics abhors a vacuum. “Watch this space” is often a lazy way of ending a column, but this time there really is a space. Watch it.
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Anyway, just to provoke RR & Josip (It figures that people who confer upon themselves the titles of "ROF Royalty" and "Josip Broz", i.e. the Yugoslav communist dictator, dislike anyone impertinent enough to disagree with them) here are some more points - as ever, very happy to be told why they're wrong.
UK-focused analysis of Western political and economic trends
It’s going downhill from here. Anyone living here with half an ear to the ground in recent years must be feeling a real sense of accelerated national decline:
Already covered above:
Additional points:
Summary. The UK is a small, mid-tier nation whose best days lie generations in the past. Project Fear will be wishful thinking.
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