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Student backpacker found beheaded in Moroccan mountains

In The Times today.

I absolutely loathed Morocco.

I went with some girlfriends and we took a drive up the Atlas Mountains.  This was probably around 2009.  We stopped off for lunch and the proprietor tried to charge the three of us for a simple meal the equivalent of £80.00.  And then got really really aggressive - frighteningly so - when we refused this attempt at extortion. 

 

 

The mutilated bodies of two Scandinavian women have been found in the Moroccan mountains.

The killing of Louisa Vesterager Jespersen, 24, from Norway, and Maren Ueland, 28, from Denmark, has shocked their home countries and prompted security measures in Morocco, which is heavily dependent on tourism.

The students had been sharing a tent six miles from the remote mountain village of Imlil, near the foot of Mount Toubkal, North Africa’s highest peak. Their bodies were found in and beside the tent. One was decapitated and the other’s throat had been cut, according to local reports.

The only time I have been properly sexualy assaulted by a stranger was in Tangier in front of a group fo about 30 British tourists

It was really sore

I hope that guy is dead now

The point is that people get killed everywhere, everyday. It is just that they don't serve a political agenda in the way a pretty blond woman being killed by a muslim man does.

I find it curious that the only outlets saying uncritically that the women were "beheaded" as opposed to having had their throats cut are The Express, Pam Gellar and Infowars.

 

 

Horrible place. Friend's bro was kidnapped there for a week, shackled and marched to cashpoint every day at gunpoint. Police complicit. North Africa really is the armpit of the world in terms of general harassment and disgusting molestation of women.

The Times qualified it. They didn't confirm it or state it as fact, merely stated that local reports had said that one was decapitated.

 

But why wait for such details to be confirmed when a point can be scored.

"The point is that people get killed everywhere, everyday. It is just that they don't serve a political agenda in the way a pretty blond woman being killed by a muslim man does."

denial denial denial

people like supes are preciesely the reason why the right wingers are so powerful right now. there is a pattern and ultra lefties deny there is one

supes - which pretty arab woman has been molested or raped and killed in europe in the last 25 years?

A better question is why don't we know how the British backpacker in New Zealand was killed? Why wasn't her manner of death splashed all over the headlines?

 

How many Muslim women have the British and the Americans killed in the Middle East/Afghanistan do you reckon? We blow the fook out entire families in one go.

 

Take you identitarian bullshit and sell it to someone else.

on that note - scandinavians have not taken part in the wars in the middle east, right? so why do scandinavian women get killed? why do german woman get raped and killed by syrians, in germany?

are you really surprised that europeans at least do not want MORE of this type of immigration?

I am a white Western woman and live in an area where 90% of my neighbours are "this type of immigrants" (many of them specifically Moroccan) and have had no problems. Whereas actually visiting Morocco is a completely different story.

 

I used to live in france and there were problems APLENTY with this type of errrm frenchman of morroccan descent

why do you reckon french elections are such a thriller all the time with the FN?

the overwhelming majority of europeans do not want more immigration from northern africa and the ME

the two contenders for the german conservatives leadership wanted to stop it (in relation to maghreb at least)

now mutti's protegée won the race but she will mst likely also implement this train of thought

I jolly well hope so

For the record I am not making any judgement on any of the comments on here, but there is a very interesting docu on NetFlix (maybe Sky):

http://www.islamandthefutureoftolerance.com/

Its a debate between Majid Nawaz and Sam Harris and there was a comment from Majid that he used the lefts reluctance to condemn intolerance as a muslim in the past to get anyway with intolerant comments.

 

I think people are losing sight of the fact that backpacker killers often fall into a distinct sub-set of serial killers so this may not even be cultural.  If you're inclined to kill people for fun then backpackers make good victims as they are often in sporadic contact with their families and so won't be reported missing for some time.  Australia has had horrendous problems over the years with itinerant workers traveling the outback killing backpackers and then moving on before anyone even knows they're missing.

Totally put me off going anywhere near the Outback.  In the true story it's based on they arrested the survivor and refused to believe his story initially because it was so outlandish.

so it's because they are backpackers

next time it's because they work for NGOs

nothing to do with islam and the role women have within islam, in particular non muslim women

By Jove, he's got it!

That's why non-muslim men never ever kill women. it is a little known fact that there hasn't been a woman murdered in the United States since 9/11.

German men have certainly never killed any women, nor have any Swedish men.

The British backpacker killed in new Zealand was killed by an Indonesian man on holiday. The true story on which Wolf Creek was based involved a Malaysian Immigrant, not a great big white bogan.

Do you not even consider engaging your brain, even reflexively, before you post this shit, Traumatico?

DD I'm not saying that is certain but for the time being we also don't know that what you say is the case as I haven't seen anything about the identity of the killer or their apparent motive.  Morocco is a popular backpacking destination so quite feasible they may even had been killed by a fellow European or an American or the like.

I think you can ackowledge that there is a semi political motive in the reporting style 

and still acknowledge that Morocco is not by any means an enlightened western country 

 

HEH - Re Judo's post about attempted extortion in Morrocco

I went to Bali and went surfing

another surfer  - of arab descent - staged a collision, but in fact there was no collision and nothing bad happened

at the beach, said surfer made a huge fuss, he was shouting and screaming and really aggressive about how I have destroyed his surfboard and now owe him €15

the whole beach was watching and some balinese people from a surf board rental came to my help and asserted that his surfboard is ok, not harmed at all, they told me not to give hm money

I told him to fook off but he kept following us and my gilr said just give him the dosh

so I gave him the dosh

the balinese told me he does that every day and that he was from morrocco

What if i told you that every negative experience that i ever had travelling in southeast Asia involved Israelis tourists, usually men, who had just finished their military service. I have literally never met one that wasn't an arrogant asshole who treated the locals like absolute shit.

What If i then went on to use that experience to completely write off an entire religion. What if I started blaming all of my problems on (((bankers))). What would you think about that? Would that be a common sense way to approach things in your book?

everybody says israelis coming from military service are a nuisance - probaby because they are

I don't blame all of my problems, or any of my problems, on a certain religion

I just do not want more immigration from a certain religion because everything will go to heck if we allow it

What if i told you that every negative experience that i ever had travelling in southeast Asia involved Israelis tourists, usually men, who had just finished their military service. I have literally never met one that wasn't an arrogant asshole who treated the locals like absolute shit.

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same goes for South America; the locals all fvcking hate Israelis  

And anyone with an interest should go spend a moving in the Pumpernickel Bakery in Kathmandu and watch how the Israelis that the local Nepalis working there. It is absolutely shocking.

Yet i would never even dream of saying that Jewish people should be barred from entering European countries. I would be ostracised and rightfully so.

Yet somehow this is an entirely acceptable way to talk about muslims in some circles.

a lot of people hate israelis - not my problem

and I do not think followers of a certain religion all murder women, it's just they are far mre likely to

 

when forming an opinion about a group of people, a religion, an ethicity even, the question is never "are they good or bad?"

there are good and bad people everyhwere. the question is, how many are the bad ones and how bad are they, what do they do?

Really?  All I can think of today is that I've said there's a bit of financial turmoil in Italy and clearly there's some rioting in France but don't recall suggesting any turmoil anywhere else.

This thread is proper mental.  If this is the best level of debate you can get on RoF with its overeducated cleverclogses over these issues, then they have become undebateable for wider political purposes. 

Thats quite worrying.  

So much for sanctimony.  Now pass me my judgmental foghorn .........

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