Steve Bruce

Is now manager of my football club.

What a time to be alive and a Newcastle fan

Apparently so. Surprised they went back to him.

Any manager would be mad to take the job. Bruce calls himself a Newcastle fan and yet chooses to work under Ashley.

Bruce is extremely uninspired and a cheap appointment I'm sure (as you'd expect with the tw*t in charge of your club).  However whilst not great it's not as grim or negative as if you'd had Fat Sam back.

Out with Benitez, who has managed Valencia, Liverpool, Inter, Real Madrid, Napoli and Chelsea, and in with Steve Bruce, of Birmingham City, Wigan, Hull, Sunderland, Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday. Oof!

Now that is trading down.

Tbf we were punching with Rafa, Bruce is more Our level given the state of the club.

its a shame as Rafa has stabilised the ship and could have made a platform to build on.

instead we will almost certainly be relegated, Ashley will start a fire sale and we can loom forward to a long spell out of top flight.

i struggle to get really worked up about it, I’ll still go to southern away games and have a laugh at the games, but I there isn’t much fun in modern football if you don’t support one of the big teams, your maximum aspiration is really just stopping up and hoping you don’t get smashed by Man City. 

there isn’t much fun in modern football if you don’t support one of the big teams, your maximum aspiration is really just stopping up and hoping you don’t get smashed by Man City. 

so true

the only caveat to that is the championship is superb

it’s by far and away the most exciting league

the trouble is to be in it to win it is fraught with risk - you have to be promoted relatively frequently in order to have a sustainable income vs expenditure, and as many a relegated club has found that’s by no means a guarantee of a successful champ club, and clearly being promoted means you also have to suffer dreadful pl seasons 

a european super league where we jettison the top six or so for good cannot come soon enough

Can’t wait for the big clubs (Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal) and the “right place, right time but not actually big” clubs like (City, spurs and Chelsea) fuck off to the super league

Wellington so you want to be relegated to 2nd tier football? Bruce can achieve that very easily next season without creating a super league.

nah the best is to be in the top league but that top league your team has a realistic prospect of winning on a level playing field

with financial doping that’s impossible

Wellington so you want to be relegated to 2nd tier football?

i don’t want them to but it is almost inevitable and I won’t be that gutted.

the relegation to the third tier might sting a bit

Lol then bitterness is strooobg in this one.  A powerful Newcastle support he shall be!  Arise, Darth Keegan.

How am I bitter? Just resigned to the inevitable tbh.

Denigrating Chelsea, spurs and city.  All of which have had large fan bases in the past, two of which were the first English clubs to win major European trophies.  Chelsea are such a new club omg.  Newcastle are 13 whole years older.  Lol.  But let’s not let real facts and history get in the way of your bitter glasses.

Pre Roman - 1 league 

Post Roman - 5 leagues

Chelsea are a “big” club because 1) they’re in London and the way the UK is divided means the odds are stacked massively in the favour of London clubs 2) Abramovich.

for most of the modern era pre Roman they’re we’re a middling side with shite fans.

fyi - cup winners cup - not a major European trophy. HTH.

the only caveat to that is the championship is superb

 

The championship is superb when you're in the top third.  It is an awful league if you're at the bottom end and it's dull if you're a perennial mid table team.

If Ashley had any sense (and thank fuck he doesn't) he'd have gone all out to get Webber from Norwich.  What he has done for us is brilliant and he'd sort you out.  He's managed (along with Farke) to turn £10m of players into £150m+ in the space of a season or two.

Ashley doesn’t know or like football, he wants to run the club like one of his shonky sportswear brands.

Wellers schooling Tecco here; pre the dodgy Russian money Chelsea were nothing special and the fans were the worst in a London except West Ham 

The championship is superb when you're in the top third.  It is an awful league if you're at the bottom end and it's dull if you're a perennial mid table team.

that’s true of most leagues tho DB m7 (well at least the bottom and middle bits)

the reason the championship stands out is because at the start of the season u can never be quite sure which bit ur team is going to be in, which makes it wonderfully unpredictable

and even then as the season pans out, unpredictability stays - during the season top can’t assume they will beat bottom etc etc

the football quality has massively improved recently (only a few notable exceptions) with buckets of goals and excitement, so it’s way better than any other second tier

refereeing is still shit ofc, but then it’s not much better in the pl 

ps shut up about webber, keep him under the radar m7

The championship is decent but we would either need to bounce back up or we are going to have to sell pretty much every player and buy a new squad on the right wages. That would almost certainly lead to a back to back relegation 

I would be quite happy with the Sbruce if I were a toontard tbh.  Rafa was always way oot of yez league.  and handcuffed as u are by cashley ashley the only better punt i can think of would be the HKnapp.

or a budget version thereof like the blue scum

For a laugh I just read some of these posts out to him indoors as if they were own opinions

he ended up rofling on a rug

great banter 

10/10 would read thread again 

T when u start to rely on me and welly to take your man down to sarsons town it is bad for all concerned

I can assure you no one is “schooling” me.  Newcastle last won the top flight in 1927.  In the 10 years before roman we won 2 fa cups, the league cup, the communshitty shield, the EUFA cup winners cup and the EUFA super cup.

In that same time period, Newcastle won the 2nd division.  So to claim we were nothing before Roman is um, well it’s bollocks really isn’t it.

In all time attendance tables Chelsea roll in about 5th in the country. Which considering our purple patch has fallen in an era when we actually don’t have one of the biggest stadiums pretty much puts the ‘not a big club’ argument to bed.

Chelsea was headhunter central yet it was also Steve McQueen, Michael Crawford, Dickie Attenborough and Raquel Welsh popping into the dressing room to quaff champagne with Ozzie and the boys. It’s always been big boy glamour.

Plus for the last 23 years (basically since Gullit took over) we’ve been extraordinarily successful and won a pot full. 

To say we’re not a big club is preposterous. 

wellers is schooling u tecco 

sorry, but he is

u can jibber jabber about chelski having had more success than newcastle etc pre-abramovich all u like, but his 20:50 was clearly distinguishing them from manu, arse and pool, not newcastle

which is indisputable, chelski just r not on the same level as those three, no matter how much financial doping has brought recent success 

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In all time attendance tables Chelsea roll in about 5th in the country

find that difficult to believe

pre-abramovich, chelski attendances were 15k-25k for decades

Oh dear Tecco, no one is saying Newcastle are a big club. We aren't. We are well supported locally but have little or no national / international standing and, famously, we have won fuck all of any significance of any meaning.

Pre Roman, Chelsea were not a successful club or big when compared to the really big clubs in England (Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal), they'd won a scattering domestic trophies and some fairly irrelevant european ones. 

For pretty much the entire 80s and 90s, Chelsea were a total irrelevance, shit fans (went to an empty stamford bridge a few times where the only supporters were the daft racists). Even now your fans are fucking gash - half of the people in the stadium are tourists and the other are shouting abuse at your own manager for having the audacity to win you a major european trophy, finish in the top 4 and get to a cup final.

You were on the verge of going completely bankrupt until you took the blood money from Roman and bought a load of success and legions of foreign fans.

These days you are considered one of the "big" clubs but anyone who knows and enjoy football that any modern day success which Chelsea or Man City has to be heavily caveated given the financial doping.

i know half of it was trolling/tongue in cheek, but i did 😂 at #LampardOut getting c5k tweets

Lol, offer that pre-Roman decade of trophies to just about any peen club and they’d bite your arm off.

This is just a silly trolling thread at this point which I refuse to engage in further because the evidence speaks for itself.

Calling the cup winners cup an irrelevance is an absurdity.  It was a great competition to win as you would know had you not been too busy failing at intertotos and Italiananglo cups.  Now those were an irrelevance.

Welly at least it looks like you’ll get to keep longstaff

re chelsea, lollers @ them being a big club. They’ve won some stuff recently but that does not make you a big club using the only correct metrics (a begrudging nod from opposition fans).

Spurs, Everton and Newcastle are all bigger clubs. Chelsea are more akin to Norwich or Forest. 

‘but his 20:50 was clearly distinguishing them from manu, arse and pool, not newcastle

which is indisputable, chelski just r not on the same level as those three, no matter how much financial doping has brought recent success’

Manure, arse and lollerpool of course had success on the back of local kids they plucked from the playing fields, not even giving them time to pick up their jumpers they were using for goalposts. They were definitely not bankrolled by rich owners. Oh no.

for that matter, neither were the European clubs you probably consider to be manure’s etc peers. Juve, Bayern and real also never had huge injections of cash. No sir. 

 

Forest have won more European Cups than Chelsea I suppose :)

I am winding up on that comment for clarity/obv!

Historically, though not recently, and I say this as an LFC fan, when there is a discussion about the biggest clubs in fairness Everton are the one (Villa also to some extent) people tend to forget about.

Trudat, Everton and Villa both bigger clubs than Chelsea. Or city for that matter. 

pre-Roman decade of trophies

mega lol @ decade of trophies

1993: Nothing

1994: Nothing

1995: Nothing

1996: Nothing

1997: Fa cup

1998: League Cup & Cup Winners Cup

1999: Nothing

2000: Fa Cup

2001: Nothing

2002: Nothing

So, that would be a decade, in which we won trophies.  Your point?  In the same period you won division 2.  I’d prefer my teams silverware tbf as I’m sure everyone else would.

didnt the toon win the intertoto in that period?

you said it was a "decade of trophies", it wasn't.  it was a couple of years of trophies, which you only won because your dodgy owners nearly bankrupt the club in the process.

as per the above, im not saying that newcastle are a big club, my point is that chelsea pre roman were not a categorically not big club compared to Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal and post roman are only considered one because of financial doping.

We did wang, who could forget the wild celebrations of the players?

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Have you two bald men decided on who's having the comb yet?

Then you need to include Liverpool and Man U in that too.  Just because their financial doping took place a couple of decades earlier doesn’t negate the fact that it took place.

It isn’t financial doping to just be successful and get lots of fans through the gate

I suggest you look at the earlier sources of income for both those teams.

Total fail from Tecco here. Just can't accept that modern day Chelsea is a totally plastic entity which only exists in its current form thanks to the bloody money of their extremely dodgy owner.

 

Chelsea pre-Roman were distinctly average.But then again, there were only a few teams who were consistently above them every season. Difference now is that more teams have more money and therefore better players. Teams like Arsenal and Man Utd no longer have a monopoly on the best players as other teams can pay as well or better. 

 

there were only a few teams who were consistently above them every season.

errr what?

They were distinctly lower / mid table (plus a couple of relegations) for the 70s, 80s and most of the  90s. Decent enough in the late 60s and had an uptick in the late 90s thanks to some very dodgy financial practices which nearly saw them implode. They were owned by some VERY dodgy people in the 80s at one point iirc.

People totally forget how Chelsea completely changed transfer spending in football. They literally broke the market and a one of the reasons why we have ended up in a world where clubs play £30m for Ayoze Perez.

Quick quiz question:

Since 1986 when Barca went mad and paid £2.3m for Mark Hughes (heh), the British transfer record has been increased by more than 50% only twice. Once was when Ream Madrid paid £80m for Ronaldo. Who was the only English based club to increase the transfer record by more than 50% in that time frame?

What Wellers said @ 12:03

It’s always surprising how many Chelsea fans manage to overlook this, and insist on believing they’re somehow on a par with the other top clubs. 

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Norwich or forest lol, gud trolling sir.

 

norwich v chelsea head to head up to 2002:

norwich wins: 14

chelsea wins: 12

draws: 15

 

is this one of those occasions where one can claim “pwn”?

Not at all.  Head to heads mean literally nothing over the course of a season.

That first summer of spending by Chelsea under Roman was insane:

Glen Johnson (from West Ham United): £6 million

Geremi (from Real Madrid): £7 million

Damien Duff (from Blackburn Rovers): £17 million

Wayne Bridge (from Southampton): £7 million

Juan Sebastian Veron (from Manchester United): £15 million

Joe Cole (from West Ham United): £6.6 million

Adrian Mutu (from Parma): £15.8 million

Alexei Smertin (from Bordeaux): £3.5 million

Hernan Crespo (from Inter Milan): £16.8 million

Claude Makelele (from Real Madrid): £16.6 million

Scott Parker (from Charlton Athletic): £10 million

It wasn't just the volume, it was the number of total flops they spent the money on. Of the list above,only Makelele actually did anything of value at Chelsea.

 

    Duff was brilliant for Chelsea and Joe Cole didn't turn out to be a bad signing at all.

    And we got the money back from mutu.  Wayne bridge wasn’t a bad backup for Ashley later and hey, his wife was good for team morale.

    who was that one they paid a fckload for and then sacked for pushing an unnacceptable amout of marching powder up his schnozz?*

    *unacceptable amount is the amount the daily mail or similar respectable publications  photographs u taking

    And we got the money back from mutu.  

    No you didn't. The court ruled that Mutu had to pay the money and he can't afford it. Chelsea haven't received a Euro for him.

    Welly if that is tru i am giving u a rare eurololol

    On 21 January 2015 the Court of Arbitration for Sport annulled the FIFA DRC ruling; Mutu remained the sole party to pay the compensation

    You plank, that was ruling out that two of his previous clubs didn’t have to pay anything back.

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    Not at all.  Head to heads mean literally nothing over the course of a season.

    That list is not over the course of a season. It’s over the course of 70 years.

    You plank, that was ruling out that two of his previous clubs didn’t have to pay anything back.

    And you think Mutu has EUR 17m kicking about to repay chelsea?

    As of October 2018 he hadn't paid a penny when he lost his ECHR appeal. He retired from footy in 2016.

    He will declare himself bankrupt and not pay a thing.

    The fact that chelsea are still pursuing him for this is yet another example of how fucking small time they are.

     

    Ah right, he was a reserve team coach for a minor side in the UAE last season. He will definitely be able to pay £15m to Chelsea then. Are you fucking stupid?

    Firstly, it’s 12. Secondly, it’s in Euros.  Thirdly, he made quite a lot of money in the past, that’s why he is still being pursued.

    Firstly, It’s 17m Euros, unless you know better than the ECHR. Secondly, that’s circa £15m. Thirdly your club is pursuing him 15 years or so after he left your club because they’re fucking small time.

     

    Heh, a Newcastle supporter calling, well anyone, small time is pretty amusing.

    We know we are small time. Not only do you know fuck all about football but you’re also in complete denial about the team you “support” (from your sofa)

    Rofl, yeah because I now live in Cornwall.  However I have been home and away plenty of times with Chelsea.  Oddball.

     

    fans of clubs other than the rags, arse and the dippers who side with them are like the Sunderland Nissan plant workers who voted for Brexit and think Farage and Johnson are on their side.

    Anyway, this thread has been derailed.

    fucking Steve Bruce man

    The Mackems want jobs and farage / Bojo want them to be indentured labourers- where's the disconnect?

    Just to rub it in, we haven’t appointed him yet because we can’t afford the £5m compensation sheff wed want

    Big Sam turning you down must be a huge blow to pride 

    Where's Tel these days?

    Toon fans can sleep well knowing that Bruce gives great 'destroy and exit'

    Probably sat in a pub telling anyone near him about how he was mates with bobby robson

    Handsome Pards is a free agent, I can see him going back, heh.

    I think he is still technically under contract at Newcastle.

    They need Paolo Di Canio assisted by Roy Keane to kick them into shape

    No more Mr Nice Guy

    Heh. Di Canio would at least be funny and shit, Bruce is just shit. Apparently they’re planning on paying him less than Man City pays its reserve team goal keeper coaches

    Unlike Pardew, i don't think he has gambling debts to pay off to Ashley

    How Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes have been able to earn fortunes as top flight football managers is one of the greatest mysteries known to man. 

    Dear oh dear oh dear.  That fat khunt Ashley reeeally hates Newcastle fans, doesn't he?

    After test diving a Ferrari for the past few seasons NUFC are back to a Lada. 

    Steve Bruce and his big fat head. 

    Mediocre manager for a mediocre club (at least in recent memory). Hopefully he keeps them up logn enough for Scott Parker to take over

    On the subject of amusing football news, what are they smoking at Atletico Madrid if Kieran Trippier is the answer?

    If Kieran Trippier signed for Newcastle he would instantly be our best striker.