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Starmer exit and his replacement

He was going to be toast by May anyway but hard to see him surviving till then.

The main issue is his replacement. There is no one even vaguely credible.

What's happened to British politics in the last 20-30 years? Half of rof* could be a better PM

 

*does not include Laz. 

Streeting is obviously the right choice

I would, obviously, be a better PM, and expect to be so one day. But am not currently a Parliamentarian

It is a bit tricky.

Could they persuade Tony Blair to become a Lord, and then handover to him as caretaker until Streeting has got the hang of shaving and long trousers?

Failing that it’s Cooper for me Clive.


Unfortunately there are just too many of Corbyn’s lot left to be practically governable.

 

Streeting is piss poor. 

Why is there no-one with intellectual gravitas?

Cuy.Cuy 08 Feb 26 14:35

The main issue is his replacement. There is no one even vaguely credible.

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What about Lammy?

apparently the only person JD Vance likes outside of his circle of inbreds, has experience, not stellar but not a car crash (fcuk me the bar just gets lower!) 

I’m not sure the nod of approval from JD Vance is going to be much of a selling point…?

There's nobody I am currently aware of in Parliament with the general appeal to win the next election. I would like to see more of Andy Burnham, but of course they just nixed him for an MP role. 

Streeting can get in the bin, with his constant, carefully-scripted media whoring. Can anyone honestly see that greasy chubster carrying labour to victory next time around?

 

Streeting seems unbelievably lightweight for an apparently serious candidate. He has a plastic face that reminds me of David Cameron, and looks about 15.

I can't stand Starmer. 

He had no policies and has no charisma. The latter is not essential but I found the absence of policies strange from the outset.

He seems to be some weird nasally robot. And, unlike AI, he doesn't seem to have learnt anything. 

If they stick with Starmer, they will lose.

If they go with Streeting, Lammy, Raynor, Mahmood, Milliband, they will very likely lose.

Unless someone else more electable comes out of the wings, brace yourself for the Reform catastrofück.

All because he could not sack the loaded sack, Reeves. He deserves this and the hard left wins. 

Don't think Reeves is particularly to blame for their current plight. 

Also, appointing Mandleson was a spectacular self-inflicted wound, but Starmer has not exactly been flavour of the month quite some time. 

The pic of Streeting with Mandy is true cringe boyz2men

Let’s see if Keith turns it round now. No excuses left but plenty of time. 

Btw everyone , how’s your pensions?

Andy Burnham is at his level.


There isn’t anyone else. We’re fǔcked. The sooner everyone realises that, the better.

I kind of think he needs an Eric morecambe he can be the straight man to. 

3-ducks08 Feb 26 15:53

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Streeting is piss poor. 

Why is there no-one with intellectual gravitas?

nickers08 Feb 26 16:19

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Because of social media like this, 




Efficient 

What this US administration thinks of someone should in no way influence judgements as to their suitability to be PM

Streeting is good. Only traditions Tory dickheads of the old school dislike him, and their dislike is political gold dust

Starmer is just like Sunak- a good man working hard and doing his best for the country, but hamstrung by the extremists in his own party and by his awkward and unrelatable comms style.

Is he even any good as a lawyer? I find that hard to imagine.

Starmer has always confronted the difficult business of public opinion as if it is like managing a difficult stiff shit. A grimace and then a long period of private non-communication, more grimacing, hoping the lawyer measure of effort and focus will gain him much applause for curling it out eventually. 

It doesn’t. In that silence goes politics. He is hopeless at politics. Not policy. Politics. Managing the people around you to manipulate an outcome. He’s shit at that. 

He was fine when the idiotic conservatives were crashing the country - Johnson and Truss, then the hapless Sunak. By Sunaktime a Labour win was inevitable whatever Rishi did and however Starmer absorbed it. No need for politics when everyone agrees it’s simply Tories out. 

Now it’s what the fook are you doing to make it better, and he’s shit at that. It’s a difficult stiff poo.  He’s locked in the khazi, he’s working on it, give the man a chance. 

We did. There is no evidence of anything. 

Now F off. 

Without Starmer, Reeves is toast. No incoming leader would have that half weight HR business partner as their Chancellor. 
 

Exactly Muttley I agree. He is a good man that is clear, why is that not good enough?  

CuyCuy you need to pay a bit more attention to whats going on in Parliment/Lords he has done a hell of a lot for the country these things take time and major changes wont be seen in just 18 months.

It is obvious now that he is utterly devoid of charisma, policies or politics. He doesn't come across even vaguely as a human being. If the FCA were tasked with making a politician, he would be it. Like a human version of their turd-like handbook. Incomprehensible gibberish that we are supposed to be grateful for. He doesn't even have the gumption to realise he is utterly hopeless and he can't change what he is.

Makes you wonder why he bothered to become the leader and what on earth he thought he was going to bring about.

I had political ambitions as a kid and throughout my 20s and 30s but mortgage, bills, life got in my way. I had more conviction and ideas even at 13.

 

 

Don't even start me on Reeves. A hopeless and over-promoted bag of fetid air. Most of which is lies.

And if you actually think he has achieved or will achieve anything of note, you're an imbecile, you have ADHD or are a meatshield. Could be a combo too.

20s is a shite time to have political ambition, you should be concentrating on being really, really good looking and macking as many hotties as possible. Get your ambitions back now. The sands of British politics are constantly shifting; pretty much all the big parties (including Reform tbh) are in pretty desperate need of talent, and there’s room for all comers.

Starmer’s like a modern day Major. Fundamentally decent but lacking leadership charisma, leading a fractious party and out of ideas and out of his depth. But I expect him to survive as Major did because there is no one else with enough support or potential. But he will therefore lead Labour to an election defeat.

Streeting is a weirdo, a lightweight, and is going to lose his seat at the next GE. Assume everyone here saying it must be Streeting are actually Tories.

Fair re 20s Laz but this is rof and few guys here were ever remotely good-looking.

As for the dearth of good candidates, the mediocrity near the top of all the parties may be abject but they'll never let anyone half decent come through.

And Farage will walk straight into the vacuum.

This country does not want a bunch of left wing loonies, and spare us the far right. Someone beg David Miliband to come back.

America sneezes and we are downstream the same effing cold.

Well Rayner and lammy warned Starmer against appointing mandelson! 

As for the dearth of good candidates, the mediocrity near the top of all the parties may be abject but they'll never let anyone half decent come through.

 

I think this is it. I don't think there is a straightforward solution to mediocrities blocking talent other than simply burning down the two main parties and starting again.

If we want to bring the talent back then comp and eligibility for MPs needs a drastic overhaul.

If you’re a bright, ambitious, highly talented operator with your entire career an open road ahead of you would you go into politics?

Exactly. You’d leave it to the likes of 4th rate wannabes like Jenrick and Raab while you got stuck into something else. 

Need to bring back MPs who have had proper careers elsewhere (tbf like Starmer and Hunt) and flush out the professional political class. Need to make it easier for talent, not harder. The current rules that exclude having a 2nd job from cabinet minister positions means that the front bench is always going to be a bit underwhelming.

E.g. Health Secretary is £145k. Job security is awful. Hours horrendous. Constantly put in front of a camera to defend something you profoundly disagree with, and the probability of getting the PM gig is negligible. Would any of you take that sort of pay cut for those sort of prospects?

I disagree. I wouldn't want a health secretary that was hesitant about the job because of the low pay. or would do it for, say, 350k but not for 150k.

 

Then you get ideologues and amateurs rather than competence and experience 

Quiz question - Who was the last health secretary to get the top job? 

I don’t think any health Secretary has ever gone on to get the PM gig? If they have they’re pre-WW2.

I have a sneaking admiration for Starmer's work on foreign policy - talking down trump to buy time while building bridges with europe.

Domestically, his management of his own party has left a lot to be desired - they didnt manage to actually deliver the reforms to welfare that are likely necessary to enhance productivity - the Tax changes were the medicine needed after 12 years of the tories shitting the bed but they needed to get the winter fuel and welfare changes through.

Instead we now have nutty farage coming in who you know will be corrupt as hell and will sell us off to trump to and Russia - with a heavy dose of anti-DEI culture wars to cover up that they are economically illiterate and basically traitors in hoc to overseas fascists. 

I genuinely think social media is making democracy unworkable due to the outsized influence far-right US billionares can now exercise internationally. 

How the absolute screamer Thiel manages to work MAGA is the modern conundrum for sure. 

Streeting is the personification of shit student politics. 

Also he always looks like he has just ejaculated into his own hand. Total freak. 

the point of the health secretary is to provide political direction/"ideology" (I don't think ideology should be treated as a dirty word). 

the highly paid NHS bosses like Simon stevens are there for the non-ideological competence 

Quiz question - Who was the last health secretary to get the top job? 


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