I don't agree with that (although it at least has the advantage of being internally consistent). There is a very real weight for those MPs who stood for election on a manifesto that they then failed to uphold, as they will have to justify themselves to their constituencies at the next election. That might be a greater or a lesser concern, obviously, depending on how Eurosceptic their constituencies are, but it's still likely to be a difficult point for them that their opponents will exploit.
How's that, then? Do MPs have an equivalent of a medical exemption certificate or something?
are u going to allow me the same joke?
no, they are politicians, by definition they do not have morals
but flippancy aside, I appreciate u think u have highlighted a contradiction and like the over-excited junior who has just read the template notes, u r eagerly awaiting ur opportunity to lance in with ur zinger
sadly for u, I am bored of this, so let’s just leave it with what we both know:
the point is simple, MPs are bound by some moral obligations and not by others, so by pointing out there is no moral weight upon them vis-a-vis brexit I am quite clearly not saying (other than as a poorly timed joke which flew over ur head about politicians) that they are free from all moral considerations
Delphi. Being rude and dismissive of others' arguments only has a chance of working when one's own position is well-reasoned and put forward coherently and cogently. Which your has not been so far.
1 Proroguing Parliament in these circumstances sounds a lot like why we had a civil war in the 17th century. Also in the period leading to the accession Parliament definitely took matters into its own hands - Bill of Rights etc.
2 A successful prorogue to exit without a deal looks a lot like a coup d'etat.
3 Yes once more step towards no Brexit - where do I push?
4 Ian Dunt ( politics.co.uk) is worth a read on Brexit - he does not believe in magic, unicorns, fairies or pixies.
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It has no weight in either sense. It’s the great granddaddy of busted flushes.
EU will just stand their ground and wait for us to put it to another vote.
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I don't agree with that (although it at least has the advantage of being internally consistent). There is a very real weight for those MPs who stood for election on a manifesto that they then failed to uphold, as they will have to justify themselves to their constituencies at the next election. That might be a greater or a lesser concern, obviously, depending on how Eurosceptic their constituencies are, but it's still likely to be a difficult point for them that their opponents will exploit.
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yes, obviously
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How's that, then? Do MPs have an equivalent of a medical exemption certificate or something?
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The big question should be: what the hell were 274 MPs doing voting against this motion?
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are u going to allow me the same joke?
no, they are politicians, by definition they do not have morals
but flippancy aside, I appreciate u think u have highlighted a contradiction and like the over-excited junior who has just read the template notes, u r eagerly awaiting ur opportunity to lance in with ur zinger
sadly for u, I am bored of this, so let’s just leave it with what we both know:
the point is simple, MPs are bound by some moral obligations and not by others, so by pointing out there is no moral weight upon them vis-a-vis brexit I am quite clearly not saying (other than as a poorly timed joke which flew over ur head about politicians) that they are free from all moral considerations
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being tozzas and the northern irish taliban, what did u expect?
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You forgot Kate Hoey was one of the 274.
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Can the good people of Vauxhall pls recall Hoey immediately, she is a complete embarassment,.
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Delphi. Being rude and dismissive of others' arguments only has a chance of working when one's own position is well-reasoned and put forward coherently and cogently. Which your has not been so far.
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oh god r u still going? givvit a rest m7
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Some disconnected observations:
1 Proroguing Parliament in these circumstances sounds a lot like why we had a civil war in the 17th century. Also in the period leading to the accession Parliament definitely took matters into its own hands - Bill of Rights etc.
2 A successful prorogue to exit without a deal looks a lot like a coup d'etat.
3 Yes once more step towards no Brexit - where do I push?
4 Ian Dunt ( politics.co.uk) is worth a read on Brexit - he does not believe in magic, unicorns, fairies or pixies.
5 What's anybody's height go to do with this?
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