New paralegal update
Rufus Youngblood 24 Jun 19 05:01
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Last week I had cause to observe that our new (male) paralegal, on day 2 in the office, was walking around with big headphones, brown slip-on shoes and skinny, too-short trousers (the bottom half of a "trendy" plaid suit).

Today I notice that he's also got the top half of the suit on (mustard plaid) and he's wearing shoes with no socks.

I think summary execution is called for.   

Fluffers, nope.  I wonder how long before he notices every other bloke in the building is wearing socks?

Buzz, I'm doing my best.

He happened to walk past as a colleague was coming into my office.  Wearing massive headphones again.  Colleague's eyes almost popped out of his head.

I'm sure he's a very bright fellow (on paper at least) but talk about a complete lack of awareness.  Or worse still, maybe he is aware but he's making a "statement".

 

 

I hate to sound like Dux (*shudders*) but is this so bad?  It's a question of generational styles, it doesn't impact his work.  he's just ... trendy... and you ain't.

 

Its funny isnt it

 

Actually on reflection I think he is the sane one and everyone else is up for execution

 

"ooh I must wear socks, the powers that be deign that sucks must be worn unless though at the holy one! Those without socks shall be the first in line at the gates of hell, how dare they sin in front of mine eyes!"

I could see that if he was paralegaling in order to try and get a TC out of the place it might be an issue. Otherwise I really don't see a problem with it. I bet he works open plan in which case there is nothing wrong with the headphones.

 

He sounds like the one I would want to hang out with 

Walking around with headphones on is a clear signal to colleagues that you don't want to engage.  Walking around with massive headphones is a massive signal...  Intentional or otherwise, that's a poor decision.

And not even Dux would forgive a chap exposing 2 inches of sockless ankle in the office.

The only issue with not wearing socks is if you have smelly feet.

I think Rufus sounds like a bit of an old stick in the mud. Times change. Fashions change. As long as he is doing his work, who cares?

I need to wear earphones in the office to block out the fuckwits around me.

And yeah, sometimes you definitely don't want to engage. If someone who works near you in an open plan office won't stop talking at the top of their voice about boring shit that no one else cares about and disturbing people who are trying to concentrate, that is a very good reason for not wanting to engage.

Walking around with headphones on is a clear signal to colleagues that you don't want to engage.  Walking around with massive headphones is a massive signal...  Intentional or otherwise, that's a poor decision.

And not even Dux would forgive a chap exposing 2 inches of sockless ankle in the office.

I tend not to go actually sockless and just wear the no show socks. Same look but doesn't stink up my shoes.

When I put my earphones on in the office because my colleague won't fucking shut up, I guess I am sending a signal. I'm sending a signal to my boss which says, "Are you sure it was a good idea to hire this wanker?"

Lady P,  you don't get to avoid engagement when you're the new paralegal on day 2.

Used to drive me nuts when my junior associate did this.  But at least in that case they night have been doing some real work.

Surely there is an expected dress code, which includes socks for men? Otherwise, why not just crack open the toms or the flip flops?!

Is he doing his work or not? If he is, why do you care?

I personally don't care. Just think that if you take a job in a law firm, you should be expected to abide by the dress code.

At my old job the fifty plusty crusties got cross if I came in wearing shorts, a t shirt and a pair of nazareth knockabouts.  I always changed into a suit after, but I am fckd if I am broiling in a SWR pressure cooker in the summer sun whilst wearing a woollen 3 piece

Eh, he's only a paralegal ffs. Maybe he's the only person in the room with any perspective on the fact that working in a law firm is just a job, albeit one surrounded by an unusually high proportion of people who will be annoyed if you don't wear socks.

When I worked in the Washington DC area the summers were fairly brutal. Would be near 40 degrees and high humidity. Often the a/c would be broken on the Metro. So no I wasn't travelling to work in uniform. Shorts, t shirt and flip flops for me.

There is an intern at near me. He wore a tie on his first two days. Someone had a word

(#unintentional chambo)

Can't believe we're actually having this sock discussion.

Certain shoes, you can get away with not wearing socks: Deck shoes, Converse.

Pretty much all other shoes, though, socks are mandatory.

Reasons are: Smell, sliding around, and the fact that it just feels so very very WRONG.

It feels horrible. Awful. Anyone who can put up with the feeling of bare feet in work shoes should be regarded with extreme suspicion, and their hard drives checked. It. Is. Wrong.

This is from a cis male POV, obvs, and my preferred pronouns are "He/ Him/ His". Does not apply to strappy shoes and other things that those idenitifying as female/ other may wear.

he may be wearing secret socks the exact size of the inside of his shoes

I am

*comfy*

I had a trainee once who bought himself a new suit (HBoss iirc).  after a few days, I had to get my seccie to mention to him that it was normal custom to remove the HUGO BOSS label sewed into the sleeve above the cuff.

what kind of place do you work in that nobody (yourself included) loudly declares "what the fuck is this! Tinker, tailor, solider, khunt! was your mum too busy giving out blow jobs to dress you this morning? do you need me to spoon you some porridge? get the fuck to pinkos and buy some fucking socks you hipster fuck" on seeing said derelict

I am with Rufus on this one.

There is only one reason he is dressed like this and it is not an attempt to try and take on cultural norms, it is just a massive lack of self-awareness.

Genuine LOL at Wang and Sumo.

But, Sumo, then they couldn't be fwends with the poor intern!

 

Alternatively, he knows it's just an office job, and more than likely one with no prospects. He thus has little incentive to tip toe around the extensive and wearisome lawyerly sartorial norms for chaps.

As Lady P has said, headphones are almost a must if trying to actually concentrate in open plan.

Wang leaving the label on the cuff is a thing these days and had a client the other day who’s kept the label on his cuff.

i just think it looks bizarre strolling round in trousers with several inches of bare ankle on display.

He needs to be Code Reded in order to bring his attitude in line with expectations.

If someone who works near you in an open plan office won't stop talking at the top of their voice about boring shit that no one else cares about

you mean like Brexit?

The label on the cuff is an eastern bloc thing.  Russkies and the like want the world to know if they're wearing an expensive suit.

Assuming there's no dress code, there's nothing to be done save that HR should probably mention that he'll probably encounter a situation where it doesn't sit well with a more senior employee or customer and any fallout is on him. TBH this doesn't sound any worse than the twats in sports jackets and cords you see round our office. Not sure BA send scouts to offices to decide who is getting the upgrade. I think if I was a client I'd prefer it if they go to the effort to wear a proper suit and tie, or just turn up in a shell suit and let their legal brilliance do the talking. 

 

you mean like Brexit?

I save it for you guys precisely because no one in my office cares.