My burning Alec Baldwin question is....

Did he know that his wife was a nutter pretending to be Spanish when he married her?

Bored of the shooting.  it's tragic but photographing a grieving nine year old is just... wrong.  The whole set seems like a sh1tstorm from the top down.  Poor safety, unpaid crew, non union and students running the joint, pulling a trigger aimed at someone in rehearsal, an inexperienced armorer who only got interested in the job 2 years ago as she was leaving film school and live bullets stored with blanks and only on set for the crew to shoot in their off time..

I doubt the film will be finished.  I'm suspecting that the sympathy for Alec Baldwin will start to evaporate as the media focus less on him as an actor than as the producer.

But really, how does his wife speak at home?  New England or with a fake spanish accent?.. and did he know and just think "bendy hot yoga teacher!" like a porn hub fantasy?

 

Live rounds were on set.... because the crew were target shooting on site using the old guns.  Just enjoying playing with real old guns.  These weren't props, they were antiques.

The 24 year old armorer (fresh out of college and only interested in this area for 2 years) allowed this and stored live bullets in the same place as the blanks.

What is really weird though, is apparently the pistol should never be cocked or fired in rehearsal, they were blocking out the scenes and Baldwin fired it. 

so there were root and branch failures all the way through this production.  3 previous misfires where there should have been nothing in the barrel (it must have been blanks?), no safety review following that and everyone seems really casual about gun safety.  

Camera walked off sending a letter citing safety concerns, working hours and conditions, the previous misfire and being unpaid for 3 weeks.  No investigation on the misfires and they were escorted off set and non-union labour and camera crews bought in.  This is the same union who threatened to strike over the working conditions of crew last month, they are hardly militant, it would have been their first strike in over 100 years!

I don't know who would have know the  armorer stored them together, that just seems insane!  Apparently low budget films cannot afford CGI, that's why they use the sound effects when filming.

Exactly Clergs!

She said she had been bought up in two cultures.  This must have been a shock to her parents who had only holidayed twice in Spain and who don't speak Spanish!

It was so bizarre but the latest two kids, post Spaniardgate, have Spanish names...

excellent cucumber work - maybe she's hiding perimenopause mental brain behind "being spanish".

 

Doggers - there's going to be one mother of a tangle of lawsuits on this one, and Baldwin will end up on the hook at the end of it as producer. I wonder whether the armourer's actions will vitiate the insurance cover? 24 yr old armourer clearly not going to be worth suing so it all ends up back with baldwin ultimately

I thought the assistant director simply grabbed a gun without really considering what was what and then yelled 'cold gun' as he handed it to Baldwin...

...if it isn't the actor's job to double check the gun and the ammunition in it, then isn't this is a break in the chain of causation? (punts the non-lawyer)

Live rounds were on set.... because the crew were target shooting on site using the old guns.  Just enjoying playing with real old guns.  These weren't props, they were antiques.

The 24 year old armorer (fresh out of college and only interested in this area for 2 years) allowed this and stored live bullets in the same place as the blanks.

You don't need much common sense to see how stoopid the above actions are.  Dunno about US law but maybe so negligent as to imply culpability?   

I thought the assistant director simply grabbed a gun without really considering what was what and then yelled 'cold gun' as he handed it to Baldwin...

...if it isn't the actor's job to double check the gun and the ammunition in it, then isn't this is a break in the chain of causation? (punts the non-lawyer)

The industry seems divided on that.  Certainly in LA it is protocol for the actor and director to be shown the empty chamber as the gun is passed.  Apparently that's a local rule and doesn't roll out everywhere.

The problem isn't with Baldwin as the Actor, it's that he is the Producer.  Not just a titular EP, but he co-wrote it and is the actual producer.

As such he is responsible for safety on Site, so having poor systems, staff changes, uninvestigated previous gun safety issues is a problem.  He apparently also knew they shot the guns in the desert for fun.  That apparently would not be allowed on any production.  The guns are like diamond tiara's, only taken out under supervision when used and then handed straight back.

The big thing though is that it is unlikely that this gun "went off", Baldwin had to pull the hammer back and shoot it, that is apparently also a no-no.  You never cock a gun unless the camera will be rolling.  It does sound like there was some element of "messing around" with the actual discharge.  Of course, if there was he wouldn't have known he was messing around with a live gun... but as Producer he seemed to run a lax safety operation that made this more likely.

 

There appears to be a massively long chain of negligence here  but ultimately only one person pointed a loaded weapon at another person and pulled the trigger.

If AB had followed the 2 prime rules of gun handling: treat every gun as loaded, and never point a gun at anybody unless you intend to kill them, whatever the antecedents, this would never have happened.