True fella you will be looking back and laughing at this thread when United come from behind for the 8th time in the competition to win the champions league in May
Yeah no point in getting anyone in who will take more than zero points from this “ridiculous” run of fixtures against less expensively assembled and less highly paid teams.
Watching Man Utd get humiliated is one of the greatest joys in world football.
Your team is dripping with talent, there are half a dozen tactically competent managers who could come in and change it overnight.
There's a weird idea among Man Utd fans that because a past-it Van Gaal and an past-it Mourinho didn't really work out you need to unearth some undiscovered gem of an unknown manager. You really think your team wouldn't be enormously better if you'd just appointed Thomas Tuchel?
Ah right. Just typed the words 'pep fixture congestion' and the results speak for themselves. He used the phrase 'completely crazy' during a run half as difficult as Unithehd's and with a squad twice as expensive.
It's clear the conspiracy against Unithehd - at the request/payment of the human rights abusing clubs - has meant the worst fixture run in history.
Messrs Zidane and Conte would probably rather come in after the run is over and only on the condition that proper investment is given on January. Could get a temporary manager in for a few weeks though.
Rumour has it Utd we’re about to sign a proper dcm but then the ex-player pundit crew and whiskey face got wind of ronaldo begging citheh to sign him and all messaged him and ole to insist utd sign him instead.
Chinorder is proving RR's point that all fans seem to be obsessed with Unithehd.
It's quite endearing and flattering but also quite odd. I DGAF about other clubs. If your own team isn't enough for you so you have to obsess other another club, maybe you actually support the other club?
Like being married to one person and obsessed with your secretary.
Klopp has complained about fixture congestion before, so I don't think its that.
The way round that one by the way is to run two teams, as Liverpool did that year recently when they won practically everything. I think he said we can't really be playing in the world club championship in Tokyo one day (which they won) then some league cup game in Saunthorpe the next (who cares).
As for Man Utd, don't care really but they do seem a bit out of their depth in terms of coaching against the top teams.
Like being married to one person and obsessed with your secretary.
It's more like being middle aged and successful but still going on drunken rants about the kid who beat you up and stole your lunch money in school. I think some of these saddos need counselling for the PTSD they endured at the hands of Man Utd in the 90s and 00s.
Oh, but Man Utd did do financial doping really, just in a really subtle way and I have proof but it goes to another school and you know having a world class youth academy is basically doping too sobsobsob.
Battering Man Utd at Old Trafford is always great, but they were so useless it takes the shine off a little. Ole has no business managing at this level.
Ole has done a lot of good tho, and trophy arguments aside has pulled together a better team playing better football than any of his predecessors since Fergie.
His transfers have generally all worked (in as much as they’ve improved the team and been better than the incumbents), he has pulled off some great results against the best teams along the way, put together a record unbeaten run away from home (only ended last week) and improved the mood amongst the team and fans immeasurably over moyes, LVG and Mourinho.
As it is, I suspect his time is probably up. I think he’ll get the next two games to take us into the break (ffs, btw).
I don’t immediately see who you replace him with tho. ZZ won’t come (and would be a more famous Ole tbh) and the board won’t go for Conte given he has mourinhoesque fall outs with management wherever he goes. Ten Haag would be great but everyone else who we might want is relatively newly locked in elsewhere so fair chance Ole rides the season out anyway.
They should never have sacked Moyes. He is proving what a great manager he is now. They should have realised that after Fergie left they needed a period of re-building and should accept that there would be around 4 or 5 years winning very little. They couldn't accept a bit of short term pain for the resultant long term gain. If Moyes was still in charge now they'd be challenging the current big guns, but 20 years of success has turned them into short-term egoists. Fergie was successful because they sticked with him through the initial bad times and let him build an era defining team. The damage they've done with the last three managers is probably going to result in them being also-rans for the next generation. I find it all highly bemusing.
There is an element (certainly more so when OGS started) that the squad was parts of Fergie, Moyes, LVG and Jose.
It took Klopp and Pep several years (and in Pep's case billions) to build a squad that they wanted and could compete, replacing players they had bought etc. Only Tuchel brought very quick success but that was with a very very deep squad.
Think the United squad now is much better than it has been for a decade. Most managers would be happy with it but clearly a few more big signings needed to compete with the top spenders. A DCM and reserve RB are obvious gaps and could be plugged if Unithehd were even willing to match arsenal's spending, doesn't have to be citeh and Chelski levels.
So OGS has done a decent job, as ZG said. Has he been exceptional? No. Has his time come to an end? Probably yes but who is going to sack him? Woodward on his way out and new CEO won't make their first action sacking the manager. The glazers will have to do it. Lol.
At the risk of being accused of being obsessed by Utd (they are one of the biggest clubs in the world and their fall from grace has been dramatic and shows no sign of reversing), one of the many things I don't get about them is their transfer strategy.
They seem to be so gullible when it comes to older players looking one last pay day before retirement. They didn't learn from Falcao (granted, a loan signing, but on £265k a week 7 years ago!), they have Cavani and Ronaldo on the books. Ronaldo was a heart over head signing. Good luck pressing and winning the ball high with him on the pitch.
For a club whose 90's/2000's success was built on young, talented and hungry players, they have completely lost their way.
Every year since SAF left United have spent a fortune on new players and every year some fans excuse their poor performance because they are apparently in a "transition phase".
Chelsea's squad was bought under loads of different managers and they're champions of Europe and top of the league. United need a better excuse.
Ole has done a lot of good tho, and trophy arguments aside has pulled together a better team playing better football than any of his predecessors since Fergie.
He does alright when he keeps it simple, plays on the counter and relies on the forwards where there is a lot of quality. That's not enough for Man Utd though. It's very unlikely you can compete for the league or CL playing such a simple system as the better teams have more than enough to deal with this.
I don't think OGS is very good tactically so he will never be able to handle a job like this no matter how much he spends.
Kenny/Ronny - stick to second captains and football weekly. We finished above “your” lot last year so hardly a dramatic irreversible decline from 2013. Falcao got injured but had potential as a great signing, Cavani has been fvcking great since he signed and Whatever else is going on cristiano is still banging them in.
The tuchel example is the one that should hit home however, he has come in and won Chelsea the European cup and they’ll go toe to toe in the league as well (albeit early signs of Rom being re found out).
No idea what second captains or football weekly are. Happy for you to remain deluded if you think OGS is doing a good job. I hope he stays at the wheel for years to come.
Congrats on winning the "coming second" trophy last season. That was a great return for the league's highest wage bill (£226m).
Heh sure Davos, sure. UTD have 4 of the 5 best paid players in the league. And the most expensive first team. If you think getting dicked 5 zip on your own patch is good use of those resources, all power to you.
I don't like football, but even for me the sense of schadenfraude at the expense of their glory-hunting 'supporters' when ManU get stuffed is indeed a wondrous emotion.
LiVARpool's was even more than Unithehd's a few seasons back. Assume it's roughly similar now.
Hth.
Liverpool's wage structure contains a lot of incentives so it rocketed when we won the PL and CL which is fair enough. Man Utd pay their players enormous amounts to not win stuff. It's an interesting model...
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Cristianlol Ronloldo
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Ronaldo McDonaldo
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Lole Gunnar Lolskjaer
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Boooooo
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What did I miss?
This is an epic game of football. Crowd bouncing, box to box, chances galore. Fill my veins with this.
Take your boring possession based football and shove it up yourself.
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How unlike United fans to appear out of nowhere when they start winning.
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Heh. Davos was reaching for his dippers shirt just before Gashford scored.
Must dull the joy a bit when you look at all the £70 mill plus players and realise it’s all bought.
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Heh maybe we were just watching the game and supporting our team instead of jumping on the bandwagon early doors.
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Dry your eyes sun. People who hate man Utd more than they support their own team are proper trag. This is you.
I was watching the game not scouring rof for classic bantz like Wuhan and Sven managed on this thread.
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Thank fook Ole lives to fight another day
The guy is so far out of his depth it’s unreal
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I LOVE the taste of all these salty tears.
Bring. Me. MOOAARRR 😛😭🤓
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True fella you will be looking back and laughing at this thread when United come from behind for the 8th time in the competition to win the champions league in May
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Delicious salty tears, caviar of the face.
😛😭😛😭😛😭
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Thank fvck for that.
HE'S STAYING!*
*for at least another fortnight
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Pogba at DM on Sunday please
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Heh. Came on after half time, waved through several attacks down the middle, directly at fault for a goal, sent off after 15 mins.
SIGN HIM UP FOR £500k A WEEK!
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Doesn't make sense to appoint a new bloke until the current ridiculous run of fixtures is over.
At this rate we won't win a game until end of November. Chelski and citeh should win by 6+ given the strengths of their squads.
Hard to see anyone coming in and changing it instantly though.
New guy in for Christmas and given some money to invest properly, not just a glazer yes man.
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Yeah no point in getting anyone in who will take more than zero points from this “ridiculous” run of fixtures against less expensively assembled and less highly paid teams.
Thank fvck for guys like you m7 🤣
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Just saw the “given some money” bit 🤣🤣
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Watching Man Utd get humiliated is one of the greatest joys in world football.
Your team is dripping with talent, there are half a dozen tactically competent managers who could come in and change it overnight.
There's a weird idea among Man Utd fans that because a past-it Van Gaal and an past-it Mourinho didn't really work out you need to unearth some undiscovered gem of an unknown manager. You really think your team wouldn't be enormously better if you'd just appointed Thomas Tuchel?
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Threeep showing a huge misunderstanding of football. And fixtures.
Probably a spurs fan?
Tuchel could come in. But I think he's already got a job m7? The heavily doped team at the top of the league I think?
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Davos getting taken back to school here.
Painful to see. Imagine putting out a team costing £half a billion and whinging about a difficult run of fixtures.
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pancake, what do you think the tactically competent manager would do differently/
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Funny how Pep never complains about fixtures.
Oh.
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He really doesn’t. For the reason that city has an expensive and deep squad, same as UTD do.
Unithehd’s run of fixtures has come about due to the absurdly easy start to the season they asked for and was given to them by the authorities.
HTH
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Ah right. Just typed the words 'pep fixture congestion' and the results speak for themselves. He used the phrase 'completely crazy' during a run half as difficult as Unithehd's and with a squad twice as expensive.
It's clear the conspiracy against Unithehd - at the request/payment of the human rights abusing clubs - has meant the worst fixture run in history.
Messrs Zidane and Conte would probably rather come in after the run is over and only on the condition that proper investment is given on January. Could get a temporary manager in for a few weeks though.
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Hell, I fully agree it is the fixtures and the lack of investment. Ole just needs more time and more money.
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If you’re a child of the 90s nothing beats manure getting humiliated
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Not sure he gets more time.
A proper DCM is a must (and has been a must for a long time) but clearly hasn't been addressed.
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Rumour has it Utd we’re about to sign a proper dcm but then the ex-player pundit crew and whiskey face got wind of ronaldo begging citheh to sign him and all messaged him and ole to insist utd sign him instead.
Things you love to see: 1. ^
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Chinorder is proving RR's point that all fans seem to be obsessed with Unithehd.
It's quite endearing and flattering but also quite odd. I DGAF about other clubs. If your own team isn't enough for you so you have to obsess other another club, maybe you actually support the other club?
Like being married to one person and obsessed with your secretary.
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Klopp has complained about fixture congestion before, so I don't think its that.
The way round that one by the way is to run two teams, as Liverpool did that year recently when they won practically everything. I think he said we can't really be playing in the world club championship in Tokyo one day (which they won) then some league cup game in Saunthorpe the next (who cares).
As for Man Utd, don't care really but they do seem a bit out of their depth in terms of coaching against the top teams.
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pancake, what do you think the tactically competent manager would do differently/
ffs is this a serious question? Even Michael Owen and Paul toesucker Scholes worked out what lole couldn’t
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It's more like being middle aged and successful but still going on drunken rants about the kid who beat you up and stole your lunch money in school. I think some of these saddos need counselling for the PTSD they endured at the hands of Man Utd in the 90s and 00s.
Oh, but Man Utd did do financial doping really, just in a really subtle way and I have proof but it goes to another school and you know having a world class youth academy is basically doping too sobsobsob.
Get. A. Life.
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It's all good fun m6, and I have no problem admitting that watching Man Utd get absolutely shat on is some of the best fun to be had from football.
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Of course it's good fun pancakes, football is about the bantz. Seem to be a few taking it seriously on here, but that is ok.
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It’s great listening to manure fans whinging on the ‘phone ins, haven’t heard that many Home Counties accents in one place since my time at RADA
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I've seen better drilled youth teams than that.
Battering Man Utd at Old Trafford is always great, but they were so useless it takes the shine off a little. Ole has no business managing at this level.
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Yeah that was shite.
Ole has done a lot of good tho, and trophy arguments aside has pulled together a better team playing better football than any of his predecessors since Fergie.
His transfers have generally all worked (in as much as they’ve improved the team and been better than the incumbents), he has pulled off some great results against the best teams along the way, put together a record unbeaten run away from home (only ended last week) and improved the mood amongst the team and fans immeasurably over moyes, LVG and Mourinho.
As it is, I suspect his time is probably up. I think he’ll get the next two games to take us into the break (ffs, btw).
I don’t immediately see who you replace him with tho. ZZ won’t come (and would be a more famous Ole tbh) and the board won’t go for Conte given he has mourinhoesque fall outs with management wherever he goes. Ten Haag would be great but everyone else who we might want is relatively newly locked in elsewhere so fair chance Ole rides the season out anyway.
Ironically Jose may well be available soon.
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What ZG said but I'd add, if we want a manager we can also look at ones currently employed in major leagues around the world.
The only people out of the question are Klopp (obviously), Pep and Tuchel (can't give them the budget they need).
But plenty of good options around looking to test themselves in the biggest job in club football.
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They should never have sacked Moyes. He is proving what a great manager he is now. They should have realised that after Fergie left they needed a period of re-building and should accept that there would be around 4 or 5 years winning very little. They couldn't accept a bit of short term pain for the resultant long term gain. If Moyes was still in charge now they'd be challenging the current big guns, but 20 years of success has turned them into short-term egoists. Fergie was successful because they sticked with him through the initial bad times and let him build an era defining team. The damage they've done with the last three managers is probably going to result in them being also-rans for the next generation. I find it all highly bemusing.
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There is an element (certainly more so when OGS started) that the squad was parts of Fergie, Moyes, LVG and Jose.
It took Klopp and Pep several years (and in Pep's case billions) to build a squad that they wanted and could compete, replacing players they had bought etc. Only Tuchel brought very quick success but that was with a very very deep squad.
Think the United squad now is much better than it has been for a decade. Most managers would be happy with it but clearly a few more big signings needed to compete with the top spenders. A DCM and reserve RB are obvious gaps and could be plugged if Unithehd were even willing to match arsenal's spending, doesn't have to be citeh and Chelski levels.
So OGS has done a decent job, as ZG said. Has he been exceptional? No. Has his time come to an end? Probably yes but who is going to sack him? Woodward on his way out and new CEO won't make their first action sacking the manager. The glazers will have to do it. Lol.
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At the risk of being accused of being obsessed by Utd (they are one of the biggest clubs in the world and their fall from grace has been dramatic and shows no sign of reversing), one of the many things I don't get about them is their transfer strategy.
They seem to be so gullible when it comes to older players looking one last pay day before retirement. They didn't learn from Falcao (granted, a loan signing, but on £265k a week 7 years ago!), they have Cavani and Ronaldo on the books. Ronaldo was a heart over head signing. Good luck pressing and winning the ball high with him on the pitch.
For a club whose 90's/2000's success was built on young, talented and hungry players, they have completely lost their way.
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Every year since SAF left United have spent a fortune on new players and every year some fans excuse their poor performance because they are apparently in a "transition phase".
Chelsea's squad was bought under loads of different managers and they're champions of Europe and top of the league. United need a better excuse.
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He does alright when he keeps it simple, plays on the counter and relies on the forwards where there is a lot of quality. That's not enough for Man Utd though. It's very unlikely you can compete for the league or CL playing such a simple system as the better teams have more than enough to deal with this.
I don't think OGS is very good tactically so he will never be able to handle a job like this no matter how much he spends.
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‘Pep and Tuchel (can't give them the budget they need).‘
heh.
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Kenny/Ronny - stick to second captains and football weekly. We finished above “your” lot last year so hardly a dramatic irreversible decline from 2013. Falcao got injured but had potential as a great signing, Cavani has been fvcking great since he signed and Whatever else is going on cristiano is still banging them in.
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Battle of the official noodle partners
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The tuchel example is the one that should hit home however, he has come in and won Chelsea the European cup and they’ll go toe to toe in the league as well (albeit early signs of Rom being re found out).
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So OGS has done a decent job, as ZG said.
Really? You think he's done a decent job? He's the biggest obstacle to Utd being genuine title contenders.
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No idea what second captains or football weekly are. Happy for you to remain deluded if you think OGS is doing a good job. I hope he stays at the wheel for years to come.
Congrats on winning the "coming second" trophy last season. That was a great return for the league's highest wage bill (£226m).
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Citeh's wage bill is 351m. Well that's what they report, will be more in practice.
Are all your opinions based on incorrect facts or just the Unithehd ones?
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LiVARpool's was even more than Unithehd's a few seasons back. Assume it's roughly similar now.
Hth.
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Heh sure Davos, sure. UTD have 4 of the 5 best paid players in the league. And the most expensive first team. If you think getting dicked 5 zip on your own patch is good use of those resources, all power to you.
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I don't like football, but even for me the sense of schadenfraude at the expense of their glory-hunting 'supporters' when ManU get stuffed is indeed a wondrous emotion.
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Heh at Chinorder not knowing his own teams wage bill.
Too busy focusing on Chelski these days m7?
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LiVARpool's was even more than Unithehd's a few seasons back. Assume it's roughly similar now.
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The data goes back to 17/18. Utd have the highest bill every season. Happy for you to provide stats showing otherwise.
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A quick Google shows the actual figures.
It's pretty obvious those are wrong.
140m a year would be what, 2.8m a week?
It's not exactly hard maths to realise that's not right.
Fcuking MEGA HEH.
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Liverpool's wage structure contains a lot of incentives so it rocketed when we won the PL and CL which is fair enough. Man Utd pay their players enormous amounts to not win stuff. It's an interesting model...
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Get's a heh from me. Don't get used to it.
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I am about as interested in your opinion of me and what I say as Pogba is in tracking midfield runners.
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Show that you don't care by replying that you don't care... bantz, toddler style
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