Emma is the personification of a privileged Islington leftie who glories in the latest cause of the day to make herself feel worthy.
And which Rofers did you have in mind as you typed that Marshall?
Some hard lessons coming for young Emma and Co. If you try to destroy someone you better not miss.
Who gives a fook what either of them think?
I do. Rowling has helped a great many people like kathleen stock who have been the subject of revolting attacks for holding views now upheld by the supreme court
I get where JK is coming from with this, but playing the impoverished mother card is not a good look. She comes over as over privileged as she accuses Emma of being. Probably better for her just to stfu and not make things personal and public.
EW started it ffs.
Watson has made it v v personal against JKR since she jumped on the trans train.
Why shouldn't JKR finally respond?
I'm generally more left leaning, but I'm Team Rowling on this
Its just playground style thats why.
Well, it was the child who started it.
While I agree a billionaire tweeting about a multi-millionnaire isn't exactly relatable, she's not wrong about EW's privileged life since childhood.
I had to Google how old EW is. 35, ffs. It's a long time since she was Hermione and she's plenty old enough to cope with a bit of criticism, especially when she started the fire. No one is (or should) be sending her death threats.
In Rowling's situation I'd think I don't need this shite any more I'm just going to totally step away from publicity and buy an isolated farm in Scotland and quietly enjoy my cash.
It's almost like you are different people, Sails.
(I think she is enjoying her cash her own way, by spending it on things she feels strongly about, including children's charities, medical research and rape crisis services as well as funding litigation. It's a privilege to have enough money to do what you want.)
I don't know what this is about. The X post was too long to read for me. I just don't understand people fighting their personal arguments over public media. What I understand even less is people participating in other people's personal fights in public media.
Heh @ Sails and his billionaire mindset
Well done to JK for putting EW firmly in her place.
Rowling is vile & a sad case of the social & personal harm caused by both social media and possession of extreme wealth by individuals. She's a superspreader of lies & disinformation and a bullying abuser of legal process, a gift to anti-democratic actors the world around who repeatedly reposts far-right accounts and targets individuals who have none of the resources she has at her disposal to protect themselves. You'd either have to have been marinating what passes for your brain in a sludge of willfull blindness and ignorance if you believe otherwise or be a paid troll. And given in the case of the former you'd have been doing that willingly as a means to give yourself permission to offload pure hate into society at the expense of not just those she targets but, to a greater of lesser degree, all of us it's impossible to consider you or your views with an ounce of respect.
🤡🤡🤡
fond of cheese protests too much, methinks.
rowling’s response feels harsh and a bit churlish- but forgivable when you take into account the death threats etc. she’s endured from the magical thinking brigade.
FoC at the wheel of the largest clown car seen this morning. And it’s only 10am
The only thing JKR has done wrong is the fantastic beasts franchise
“The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me … I might never have been this honest.”
I don’t understand this comment of JK’s - what did Watson say to “start” this fight? Is there a link to or transcript of the podcast interview anywhere?
Chill’s new persona doesn’t pull their punches. If the world jumps on your back and screams “bigot” (without any reasonable evidence) when you post a heartfelt explanation of your beliefs and why you think that way and then this is followed by rape and death threats to you and yours, you can hardly blame someone for becoming slightly more fervent in their views.
Some of what she has posted in the last year or so has made me uncomfortable as she used to be ultra-reasonable but I understand why this has happened and still fully back her.
What Jim said. This is also why Starmer labelling reforms policies "racist" is a massive own goal.
What Jim said. This is also why Starmer labelling reforms policies "racist" is a massive own goal.
I AGREE IT IS A MASSIVE OWN GOAL TO LABEL THE POLICY OF CARRYING OUT MASS DEPORTATIONS AS RACIST
AT THE VERY MOST I WANT OPPOSING POLITICIANS TO SAY "LEGITIMATE CONCERNS" AND TO QUIBBLE WITH THE PRACTICALITIES WHILE CONCEDING THE POINT
HEAVEN FORFEND THAT THEY DARE TO CALL THE RACIST POLICIES "RACIST"!!
"And given in the case of the former you'd have been doing that willingly as a means to give yourself permission"
You what mate?
Honestly Joffz it's not even billionaire mindset. Next few years I'll announce I'm humbled and honoured to be deleting Linkedin and will become a jobbing gardener who lives somewhere with no neighbours. I will quietly pootle and ignore all the craziness. Well apart from still asking flat earthers how I've sailed round the bottom of the world in a manner that doesn't work on any flat earth model.
holding views now upheld by the supreme court
i.e. stating facts
do we have any examples of these lies and disinformation? I thought her position was fairly simple ie women cannot have a penis.
do we have any examples of these lies and disinformation? I thought her position was fairly simple ie women cannot have a penis.
YEs yOu HaVE idEnTiFiEd tHe LiES anD DiSInForMATiOn!
ALsO, BIgOt! YoU ArE wiSHinG LiTErAL DeATH oN TrAnS PeOPLe aNd i HoPE soMeOnE kILls aLl yOUr FaMILy!
(obv not really RoF before you get me arrested.)
Aww two sanctimonious twerps found each other for a Twitter spat. Happy for them.
mebbe - but only one of them is rational and logical. bumped into the other one in a shop at top end of Upper St. a decade or so ago - smug, self regarding, pompous. forgivable in a youngster. maybe she’s grown up and really is contrite? would be good if they can reconcile but JK (understandably as I said above) taking no prisoners where mealy mouthed half apologies offered while still cleaving to the trans faith.
Sorry, what has Emma Watson actually said to (or about) JK to provoke this response?
I have googled but all the news articles are about this latest spat - I understand Watson signed an open letter saying she supported trans rights (which didn’t mention JK), and made a comment at an awards show saying she was there for “all the witches”, which doesn’t even mean anything to me?
I am confused where this is all coming from. Has she attacked JK directly somewhere?
She gave an interview. Work it out for yourself.
ONCE WE GET THE TRANS OUT OF THE BATHROOMS WE SHOULD GET THE POOFTERS OUT: I DON'T WANT A FAIRY SNEAKING A LOOK AT MY JOHN THOMAS WHEN I'M DRAINING THE SNAKE!!
you’re in a bit of a muddle BB - have a lie down
That post is better written than the HP franchise. It's a pretty compelling takedown.
You almost feel sorry for Emma W because she is clearly quite emotionally fragile. She blubs in the interview over the silliest things.
I remember when she went to uni after the films ended (in the states I think) and quit after a term because whenever she answered a question in a lecture some wag at the back would shout "ten points to Gryffindor!"
She's just a bear of not enormous brain who was catapulted to fame as a child by getting a role in the biggest show on earth. She's ill-equipped to deal with it.
I don't know that having a crack at her is the right thing to do on JKR's part but I can't say I blame her.
Emma's mom was a tax lawyer.
Wonder if her dad rofs? He was at nabarros wasn't he
you’re in a bit of a muddle BB - have a lie down
He's missed the urinal and pissed all over his own shoes
Aged 15, in RE class at school, our teacher asked whether we considered the world to be primarily friendly, or unfriendly. The class split roughly into friendly and unfriendly camps. When the teacher asked me what I thought, I remember saying “neither“, and that the world largely was “indifferent“.
I’ve always had that view. As the old pop song puts it:
Don’t tell me your troubles I got troubles of my own
The mass of people primarily are focussed on themselves. They barely notice you. Even when they do, their attentions are fleeting, shallow, and invariably lightly-informed.
So the modern urge to take photographs of your own face and post them online, while earnestly banging on about whatever personal issue you may or may not be having, always struck me as illogical, and futile, stemming as it does from both a vast over-estimation of: (i) one’s true significance in most people’s lives; and (ii) the acuity of any advice they might offer.
Essentially, I consider that therapy is a waste of time. Faced with a personal dilemma, go for a walk by yourself, write down your options in private, sleep on it, then act. End of. You sort out your own stuff, and you should seek to bring fun to others, not intractable problems.
This is not a popular attitude nowadays:
“I know from my own healing journey that silence has been the least effective remedy,”
– Prince Harry.
There’s no escape, folks. Harry is a product of his insecure and over-sharing times, and he is convinced that, when in doubt, letting it all hang out is always the best policy. Like half the world nowadays, I’m not sure that Harry has any clear concept of privacy.
(And, frankly, if you ever hear of anyone speaking about their “journey“, reach for your gun.)
The contrast with his late grandfather, Philip, is instructive – from a newspaper article::
“What did worry him was the couple’s preoccupation with their own problems and their willingness to talk about them in public. ‘Give TV interviews, by all means,’ he said, ‘but don’t talk about yourself.’
He told me more than once: ‘It’s a big mistake to think about yourself. No one is interested in you in the long run. Don’t court popularity. It doesn’t last. Remember that the attention comes because of the position you are privileged to hold, not because of who you are. If you think it’s all about you, you’ll never be happy.’
As the French say, “pour vivre heureux, vivons cachés“.
Even if you do so in plain sight.
Rowling is a monomaniac. While I usually have no time for left-wing luvvies, Emma Watson seems perfectly pleasant and she can hardly help the fact that she grew up in a privileged environment, while JKR had to live in a shoe-box under the Forth bridge or whatever.
I remember when she went to uni after the films ended (in the states I think) and quit after a term
She's just a bear of not enormous brain
She went first to Brown (as an undergraduate), and then to Oxford (as a postgrad), both of which one has to be quite clever to get into.
What really grates is that Emma Watson made a really nice statement saying she hoped that people can still get on with each other, despite their political differences, and Rowling responded by calling her ignorant.
How rude.
There is some unnecessary needle in JK Rowlings' comments, for sure.
Rowling is, indeed, a monomaniac.
The obsession with changing rooms is just bizarre.
It’s pretty obvious that the biggest threat to women comes from men IN GENERAL and not from some tiny tiny subset of people who commit crime and happen to be trans.
I think the needle comes from the fact that those on the right side of history have made numerous threats to JK and her family and the handwritten note does not cut it as a reply
heh. she's right about watson
She certainly is.
Emma is the personification of a privileged Islington leftie who glories in the latest cause of the day to make herself feel worthy.
And which Rofers did you have in mind as you typed that Marshall?
Some hard lessons coming for young Emma and Co. If you try to destroy someone you better not miss.
Who gives a fook what either of them think?
I do. Rowling has helped a great many people like kathleen stock who have been the subject of revolting attacks for holding views now upheld by the supreme court
I get where JK is coming from with this, but playing the impoverished mother card is not a good look. She comes over as over privileged as she accuses Emma of being. Probably better for her just to stfu and not make things personal and public.
EW started it ffs.
Watson has made it v v personal against JKR since she jumped on the trans train.
Why shouldn't JKR finally respond?
I'm generally more left leaning, but I'm Team Rowling on this
Its just playground style thats why.
Well, it was the child who started it.
While I agree a billionaire tweeting about a multi-millionnaire isn't exactly relatable, she's not wrong about EW's privileged life since childhood.
I had to Google how old EW is. 35, ffs. It's a long time since she was Hermione and she's plenty old enough to cope with a bit of criticism, especially when she started the fire. No one is (or should) be sending her death threats.
Scylla30 Sep 25 08:25
Who gives a fook what either of them think?
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this, endlessly this
In Rowling's situation I'd think I don't need this shite any more I'm just going to totally step away from publicity and buy an isolated farm in Scotland and quietly enjoy my cash.
It's almost like you are different people, Sails.
(I think she is enjoying her cash her own way, by spending it on things she feels strongly about, including children's charities, medical research and rape crisis services as well as funding litigation. It's a privilege to have enough money to do what you want.)
I don't know what this is about. The X post was too long to read for me. I just don't understand people fighting their personal arguments over public media. What I understand even less is people participating in other people's personal fights in public media.
Heh @ Sails and his billionaire mindset
Well done to JK for putting EW firmly in her place.
Rowling is vile & a sad case of the social & personal harm caused by both social media and possession of extreme wealth by individuals. She's a superspreader of lies & disinformation and a bullying abuser of legal process, a gift to anti-democratic actors the world around who repeatedly reposts far-right accounts and targets individuals who have none of the resources she has at her disposal to protect themselves. You'd either have to have been marinating what passes for your brain in a sludge of willfull blindness and ignorance if you believe otherwise or be a paid troll. And given in the case of the former you'd have been doing that willingly as a means to give yourself permission to offload pure hate into society at the expense of not just those she targets but, to a greater of lesser degree, all of us it's impossible to consider you or your views with an ounce of respect.
🤡🤡🤡
fond of cheese protests too much, methinks.
rowling’s response feels harsh and a bit churlish- but forgivable when you take into account the death threats etc. she’s endured from the magical thinking brigade.
FoC at the wheel of the largest clown car seen this morning. And it’s only 10am
The only thing JKR has done wrong is the fantastic beasts franchise
“The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me … I might never have been this honest.”
I don’t understand this comment of JK’s - what did Watson say to “start” this fight? Is there a link to or transcript of the podcast interview anywhere?
Chill’s new persona doesn’t pull their punches.
If the world jumps on your back and screams “bigot” (without any reasonable evidence) when you post a heartfelt explanation of your beliefs and why you think that way and then this is followed by rape and death threats to you and yours, you can hardly blame someone for becoming slightly more fervent in their views.
Some of what she has posted in the last year or so has made me uncomfortable as she used to be ultra-reasonable but I understand why this has happened and still fully back her.
What Jim said. This is also why Starmer labelling reforms policies "racist" is a massive own goal.
I AGREE IT IS A MASSIVE OWN GOAL TO LABEL THE POLICY OF CARRYING OUT MASS DEPORTATIONS AS RACIST
AT THE VERY MOST I WANT OPPOSING POLITICIANS TO SAY "LEGITIMATE CONCERNS" AND TO QUIBBLE WITH THE PRACTICALITIES WHILE CONCEDING THE POINT
HEAVEN FORFEND THAT THEY DARE TO CALL THE RACIST POLICIES "RACIST"!!
"And given in the case of the former you'd have been doing that willingly as a means to give yourself permission"
You what mate?
Honestly Joffz it's not even billionaire mindset. Next few years I'll announce I'm humbled and honoured to be deleting Linkedin and will become a jobbing gardener who lives somewhere with no neighbours. I will quietly pootle and ignore all the craziness. Well apart from still asking flat earthers how I've sailed round the bottom of the world in a manner that doesn't work on any flat earth model.
i.e. stating facts
do we have any examples of these lies and disinformation? I thought her position was fairly simple ie women cannot have a penis.
do we have any examples of these lies and disinformation? I thought her position was fairly simple ie women cannot have a penis.
YEs yOu HaVE idEnTiFiEd tHe LiES anD DiSInForMATiOn!
ALsO, BIgOt! YoU ArE wiSHinG LiTErAL DeATH oN TrAnS PeOPLe aNd i HoPE soMeOnE kILls aLl yOUr FaMILy!
(obv not really RoF before you get me arrested.)
Aww two sanctimonious twerps found each other for a Twitter spat. Happy for them.
mebbe - but only one of them is rational and logical. bumped into the other one in a shop at top end of Upper St. a decade or so ago - smug, self regarding, pompous. forgivable in a youngster. maybe she’s grown up and really is contrite? would be good if they can reconcile but JK (understandably as I said above) taking no prisoners where mealy mouthed half apologies offered while still cleaving to the trans faith.
Sorry, what has Emma Watson actually said to (or about) JK to provoke this response?
I have googled but all the news articles are about this latest spat - I understand Watson signed an open letter saying she supported trans rights (which didn’t mention JK), and made a comment at an awards show saying she was there for “all the witches”, which doesn’t even mean anything to me?
I am confused where this is all coming from. Has she attacked JK directly somewhere?
She gave an interview. Work it out for yourself.
ONCE WE GET THE TRANS OUT OF THE BATHROOMS WE SHOULD GET THE POOFTERS OUT: I DON'T WANT A FAIRY SNEAKING A LOOK AT MY JOHN THOMAS WHEN I'M DRAINING THE SNAKE!!
you’re in a bit of a muddle BB - have a lie down
That post is better written than the HP franchise. It's a pretty compelling takedown.
You almost feel sorry for Emma W because she is clearly quite emotionally fragile. She blubs in the interview over the silliest things.
I remember when she went to uni after the films ended (in the states I think) and quit after a term because whenever she answered a question in a lecture some wag at the back would shout "ten points to Gryffindor!"
She's just a bear of not enormous brain who was catapulted to fame as a child by getting a role in the biggest show on earth. She's ill-equipped to deal with it.
I don't know that having a crack at her is the right thing to do on JKR's part but I can't say I blame her.
Emma's mom was a tax lawyer.
Wonder if her dad rofs? He was at nabarros wasn't he
He's missed the urinal and pissed all over his own shoes
Aged 15, in RE class at school, our teacher asked whether we considered the world to be primarily friendly, or unfriendly. The class split roughly into friendly and unfriendly camps. When the teacher asked me what I thought, I remember saying “neither“, and that the world largely was “indifferent“.
I’ve always had that view. As the old pop song puts it:
Don’t tell me your troubles
I got troubles of my own
The mass of people primarily are focussed on themselves. They barely notice you. Even when they do, their attentions are fleeting, shallow, and invariably lightly-informed.
So the modern urge to take photographs of your own face and post them online, while earnestly banging on about whatever personal issue you may or may not be having, always struck me as illogical, and futile, stemming as it does from both a vast over-estimation of: (i) one’s true significance in most people’s lives; and (ii) the acuity of any advice they might offer.
Essentially, I consider that therapy is a waste of time. Faced with a personal dilemma, go for a walk by yourself, write down your options in private, sleep on it, then act. End of. You sort out your own stuff, and you should seek to bring fun to others, not intractable problems.
This is not a popular attitude nowadays:
“I know from my own healing journey that silence has been the least effective remedy,”
– Prince Harry.
There’s no escape, folks. Harry is a product of his insecure and over-sharing times, and he is convinced that, when in doubt, letting it all hang out is always the best policy. Like half the world nowadays, I’m not sure that Harry has any clear concept of privacy.
(And, frankly, if you ever hear of anyone speaking about their “journey“, reach for your gun.)
The contrast with his late grandfather, Philip, is instructive – from a newspaper article::
“What did worry him was the couple’s preoccupation with their own problems and their willingness to talk about them in public. ‘Give TV interviews, by all means,’ he said, ‘but don’t talk about yourself.’
He told me more than once: ‘It’s a big mistake to think about yourself. No one is interested in you in the long run. Don’t court popularity. It doesn’t last. Remember that the attention comes because of the position you are privileged to hold, not because of who you are. If you think it’s all about you, you’ll never be happy.’
As the French say, “pour vivre heureux, vivons cachés“.
Even if you do so in plain sight.
Rowling is a monomaniac. While I usually have no time for left-wing luvvies, Emma Watson seems perfectly pleasant and she can hardly help the fact that she grew up in a privileged environment, while JKR had to live in a shoe-box under the Forth bridge or whatever.
She went first to Brown (as an undergraduate), and then to Oxford (as a postgrad), both of which one has to be quite clever to get into.
What really grates is that Emma Watson made a really nice statement saying she hoped that people can still get on with each other, despite their political differences, and Rowling responded by calling her ignorant.
How rude.
There is some unnecessary needle in JK Rowlings' comments, for sure.
Rowling is, indeed, a monomaniac.
The obsession with changing rooms is just bizarre.
It’s pretty obvious that the biggest threat to women comes from men IN GENERAL and not from some tiny tiny subset of people who commit crime and happen to be trans.
I think the needle comes from the fact that those on the right side of history have made numerous threats to JK and her family and the handwritten note does not cut it as a reply
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