Have increasingly divergent political opinions ever created a major rift between you and someone once very close to you?

Well?

oh ffs

cheers risky - this is exactly the kind of stuff i don’t like when anna pops up

this a featured discussion on the main board - for clarity, i’ve never defended or supported a paedophile (or alleged paedophile) 

in the circumstance you’re referring to i agreed multiple times he should have been fired

this kind of crap is so dishonest and frankly tiring to have to defend every time

anna i’m very happy you’re back but you’ve spent the entire day trying to pick a fight with me and now you’re again falsely trying to call me a defender of paedophiles

i’d appreciate it if you’d just post to someone else and frankly fvck off and leave me alone

this kind of ugliness is completely unnecessary 

A couple of mates have gone down the conspiracy route, one has actually left the country as a result of his beliefs. Moved to Mexico. Nutter.

What? Why?

What beliefs?

 

Short version; a good friend of mine for the last 20 years went a bit squirrelly during lockdown 1 and starting talking about various conspiracy theories with an alarming degree of seriousness.

As time passed we all realised he was actually serious, and well it must've escalated quite quickly during the 2 years nobody saw much of each other, and it culminated in him going to a conference of similarly-minded folk, called Apocalypto, in Mexico. 

He obviously saw/heard enough there in the space of a week or 2 to come back & quit a pretty well paid job, sell off a flat on the river in SW London, and move out there permanently a few months ago.
Something about 'avoiding the imminent collapse of western civilisation'.

Heh. It's funny writing it out, it's been all very surreal. But he'd just sit there while you took the piss out of him relentlessly for it, which I and others did quite often, and then just carried on regardless.

 

Haven't had much of an update yet, tbh. Gone awfully quiet. He's like that though. Think he left just pre-Xmas, but he even did that without telling anyone too.

He was a management consultant (I think) before, not that there's always necessarily a direct correlation between occupation and intelligence, but it's not like he was a labourer or similar. Makes it all the funnier really, hearing some of the nonsense he's bought into. Standard conspiracy jibberish mainly, from fake-moon landings to evil WEF cabals and global depopulation, that's where it all gets a bit dark for a serious conversation.

I never fell out with him or anything over any of it, his theories and opinions were usually so far removed from the realm of reality I couldn't tell if he was even being serious half the time. Once I established he was, I refused to engage on any serious level with it, and mainly just laughed at him.

I did ask if he was out of his fooking mind more than once though, especially when the quitting job/flat made it all more 'official'.

Must chase him up this weekend now.

 

Two insults on different threads in pretty short order merkz! 
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pretty much the only reason I still rof is to point out what a penis you are risky m1

when I lose interest in that you’ve won and your weird incel loser brand of politics can take over rof for all I care as I will be gone

until then though YRUSAP? 

"gym bros are famous for this".

I'm sure that if a woman posted such a snide jibe, your ditzy little head would spin on its axis and explode, such would be your manufactured outrage at the imagined insult to your fellow brothers in the struggle against oppression and erasure by The Woman.

I started this thread after a conversation with someone very close to me about the hike in corporation tax.

I remarked that it doesn’t greatly bother me and that those of us who have been fortunate enough to thrive commercially shouldn’t feel too hard done by and glad that we can do our part for society. I was mocked and it left a bad taste in my mouth.

Ive definitely become less concerned about myself with advancing age. The other person is slightly older than me and has enlightened me over the course of our friendship in spheres where I needed to revisit my thinking . Neither of us is extravagant in our lifestyle. 

I also had in mind relations who think the sun shines out of Netanyahu’s arse. I would like to see a stake put up it. No point in debate. We WOULD fall out. 

Contrast friends who are relatively indifferent to what is happening in Israel but with whom I could at least discuss it.

Thanks for contributing to the discussion. 

 

 

 

relations who think the sun shines out of Netanyahu’s arse

This must be hard. I would personally say that there are some things worth falling out about though. 

A particularly interesting conversation beckons. I have a very traditionally Jewish friend who’s a Judge. We usually catch up a few times a year. I’m looking forward to the next meet. 

Definitely. My step daughters think I’m a terf dinosaur who was also a covid granny killer - perhaps this is more about how they feel about me than political viewpoints 

Covid was challenging because my views didn’t align with a lot of my old friends - most of whom incidentally didn’t have kids. We are less close but that was happening anyway 

my dad’s a shy Tory now. So that’s an odd one and he’s becoming very very old school right wing. We do talk about it all tho. 

I’ve known him since I was 3. I can tell him to fook off and take a look in the mirror without being done for contempt.
You don’t think I’d choose to mix in legal circles ffs. 

Why are you so bothered if an old friend mocked you a little and had a different viewpoint. It’s hardly extremism or a personal comment and from what you say you are hardly vulnerable. Why the sensitivity? Isn’t that what old friends are for.

Morning Elephant,

I found it very sad that we are increasingly strangers, and this put it under a microscope. As a reminder the thread title for context states VERY close. 

Morning! I avoid contentious political subjects now with friends.  I think you can alienate people. The breakdown of any relationship is really sad. Grief can follow like a death. I try and avoid and repair but accept we may not have as much in common. I would never stop speaking to a friend.