Ha ha ha Hartlepool

Tories almost twice the Labour vote!

Not really Lib Dem territory cockpit. I was sad to see the Monster Raving Lonny Party being over shadowed. Dark days for the party. Time for a new strategy. 

Lol it’s actually quite sweet that so many within Labour think that with a hardcore lefty leader (who at the same time embraces metro woke values) they would be back at the races. 

It is fascinating how Victorian politics is repeating itself - queen and country flag waving Toryism succeeds in winning working class votes led by a greasy pole climbing egoist Johnson is just the new Disraeli- the opposition need a new Gladstone

the main oddity of this is that hartlepool didn’t go tozza in the 2019 election

when the red wall came down, based on the reasons for it and hartlepool’s demographic, i would have thought it would have been blue two years ago

Oracle Richard Tice effectively won Hartlepool for the tozzas in 2019. I think it was the best brexit party showing anywhere. It’s not a surprise the tozzas won, more the margin.

heh

that’s some rapid fire responses from roffers!

i feel bombarded by tice, which is pretty repellent

so overall that makes it sound like a massive non-story. in fact, a brexit p/tozza p combo vs now the tozzas seem to have had their position eroded based on projections?

Do you think Blair would do better now laz. I voted for Blair in 97 ultimately disappointed by him, but i think times have changed. He has more gravitas than starmer but political currents have changed since 97.

It’s not really a north south thing, Blair’s government was very good for northern cities, its metro forgotten part urban/town thing. The affluent countryside which i am from generally was always Tory. 

"the tozzas seem to have had their position eroded"

Not unusual for an incumbent government, but yes, they've reason to be slightly disappointed.

That said, plenty of older working-class Brexit voters still won't ever vote for the party of Thatcher. 

Rex i can remember Mandelson walking into a local chip pie and seeing the mushy peas asking for guacamole.

grandson of Herbert Morrison. Labour have always had a mix of working class and posh intellectuals. Although not sure Mandy was that intellectual.

Not sure thatcher casts that shadow anymore 3dux. She’s been gone for over thirty years politically. The shadow of thatcher has been eclipsed by the north London metro elite not being them and looking down on them.

I actually like gravy on chips with a pie, but find it disgusting with fish and chips. Gravy in fish & chips seems a very a northern, well not from the part of the West Country i am from. Maybe a poor reflection on me.

as dux says its something you could imagine Mandy saying.

gravy on chips is rank - as is curry sauce - and, as seen in northern curry houses, curry with chips instead of rice or chapati. heathens. 
 

do northern chippys still use beef dripping rather than vegetable oil?

Is there a difference also in the understanding on the term 'fish cake' also? Local chippies would sell fish cakes as a breaded fish sort of combo. In the North when I ordered it was always literally a cake of fish.

I dont get curry sauce on chips. 

16 years Year of the Pig is a long time. I accept your point but I was more looking at the last few recent elections. I doubt the Lib Dems spent any money on this election especially given it voted nearly 70 percent leave. 

Crawley I am from Somerset and we didn't have gravvy with fish and chips. Well not in my day. Devon is f**king weird anyway but not as weird as the Cornish :-)

I FIND IT ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING THAT THE SCUM LIBTARDS WHO BELIEVE IN WOKE NONSENSE AND HATE THIS GREAT NATION THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CRITCISE THE POLITICAL BELIEFS OF OTHER PEOPLE!!

DON’T THEY KNOW THAT PEOPLE’S POLITICAL BELIEFS SHOULD BE PROTECTED FROM CRITICISM?!?

WHERE’S MY SAFE SPACE!!!

Jesus with supporters like that labour is truly down the shitter for a generation. Utter stupidity from someone with a Desmond in critical theory from goldsmiths. These people are the scum.

Of course,  the Tories never mock poor people, who could possibly imagine the Eton clique/Bullingdon club that so dominate the Tory party doing such a thing?

"'Progressives' absolutely despise the working classes g'wan. Certainly since July 2016. It's all over."

They absolutely do 

the left now basically does not see class as significant - everything is identity politics 

I grew up near Hartlepool.  If there's something that a lot of North-Easterners have in common it's that they are stubborn and won't admit they're wrong.  The Blue Wall vote might be a bit more "sticky" than some might imagine.