“Great New Brexit Deal” agreed

So to the Commons.  

Wonder what the DUP will do

"Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, I’m begging of you please just back my plan. Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Please don’t screw me, just because you can.

My beauty is beyond compare To pole dancers with long blonde hair And companies that need some folding green.

I won’t recall that pipe bomb thing Or all those crazy songs you sing My deal can’t be complete without, Arlene I’m seeing Russians in my sleep They’ll break my legs and drop me deep I’m crying when I call your name, Arlene...

The hedgefunds want me in that ditch My dreams are solid as my bridge And Goebbels wants his jokes back now, Arlene Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, I’m begging of you please just back my plan. Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Please don’t screw me just because you can.

You could have your bribe of choice As long as you will give your voice To smash the peace and vote for me, Arlene I had to have this talk with you My happiness depends on you I promise I’m not lying too, Arlene

Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, I’m begging of you please just back my deal. Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Arlene, Please tell them all it's really really real."

If we’re going to have Brexit at all, then the May deal was fairly tolerable to me, so if it happens that’ll be ok. A second referendum would be a good outcome from the point of view of a reasonable Remainer - a fair shot at a remain outcome or, if we do leave, a fairly soft landing.

Do you think Bozza would prefer to let the Commons block the deal and then blame it in a GE, or concede a 2nd ref to get it through.

Personally I think he and the Tories would be better of with the former.  

How would they force him?  Take control of the order paper and propose primary 2nd ref legislation?  I don't think there is a majority for that.  They'd want Bozza to own it.

His (proper) first 100 days are going to make Britain great again and we will hit sunlit uplands at the end of March 2020.

THIS IS INDISPUTABLY THE CASE!

I CAN’T WAIT FOR BORIS JOHNSON’S FIRST 100 DAYS AS PRIME MINISTER!!

SUNLIT UPLANDS!

Labour’s official policy is to hold a second referendum so I think they will make that a condition of passing the new deal, and I think the tories will accept it, especially if the DUP are not supporting it.

There won’t be a second referendum we haven’t implemented the first yet and I voted remain.

it takes months and the wording of what should be on the ballot paper would never in a billion years be capable of agreement!

"There won’t be a second referendum we haven’t implemented the first yet"

this is a really dumb argument people keep spouting

do you want the UK to leave the EU with the deal

do you want the UK to remain in the EU

simples

 

FAOD I have never wanted another ref on the actual question of if we should leave, but a ref on the deal seems sensible

That's illogical. We know we're leaving the EU, we've voted it on I already!. Any new referendum has to be: do you want the deal or don't you (the default being a clean break "no deal")?

 

Basically this deal will probably squeeze through even without DUP. Labour Leavers will vote for it. The Tory 21 will vote for it. Tbh with a bit of pork and some threats, the DUP will probably recognise the game is up and vote for it. Will be very close though.

Nice big fiscal splurge coming. 

Boris and Dominic will smash the election.

Short recession early next year (we’re already in it tbh)

Will be boom time by 2021.

But lots of batty ideas from the right of the Tory party. Politics will take a massive shift to the right generally and our long-term strategic position both politically and economically has become worse. But most people wont notice.

Rejoiners will probably win in 15-20 years time and we will go back in considerably diminished and on worse terms.

 

 

That's illogical. We know we're leaving the EU, we've voted it on I already!. Any new referendum has to be: do you want the deal or don't you (the default being a clean break "no deal")?

YES, THAT MAKES SENSE!!

"Basically this deal will probably squeeze through even without DUP. Labour Leavers will vote for it. The Tory 21 will vote for it. Tbh with a bit of pork and some threats, the DUP will probably recognise the game is up and vote for it. Will be very close though."

Except that the DUP have issued a categorical statement saying they will not support it.... They cannot row back from that.