Grace at mealtime/before meals. When did you last encounter this?

I was bombarded with this in my childhood both at school and as a part of religion school, though NOT ONCE at home.

These days it is a very rare beast (pun about to be encountered not intended) BUT and here's the crux of this.

Occasionally as an utterly irreligious carnivore I stop and pause about meals comprising meat or fish and contemplate what I'm about to eat and acknowledge.

Any other carnivores do this?

Oh to be called by weird by Rham. I've been praying for that too. It makes me feel positively normal.

I was reflecting on the importance of practicing gratitude for the good things in life and - fundamentally and stripping away the religious aspects - this is what grace is.

Theres a lot to be said for doing a secular version of it. I mentioned this at dinner the other day.

Worfette 1 response was along the lines of “Christ dad is this the latest stage in your endless mid life crisis”.

Im grateful for her keeping me grounded.

If you strip away the sky pixie bit, who are you showing gratitude to.  Are you gratifying yourself at the dinner table, CW? That's quite the mid life crisis. 

Was in Kiwiland a few years back 'n' was invited to Sunday lunch with a friend's family. As I was the guest, I was given the honour(?) of saying the pre-meal grace. No warning  and totally unexpected so I was a bit flummoxed. All I could think of at the time was my old college grace which was approx 10 lines long and in Latin. Had to go with that one as that was still all that had come to mind.

Seemed to impress them all tho'.....

@ 3 Ducks I think we may have had them in Dining in the Inns. Or it may have ben some declaration to the Queen.

At some formal dinners we have grace twice: said before we sit down and sung after dinner but before toasts.

Never- but I find it quite sweet. Nothing wrong with showing gratefulness when so many people around the world can barely put two meals together.

Occasionally encounter this. If there is a minister of any denomination present for dinner it is polite to invite them to say grace isn't it? I can't imagine only socialising with people with my exact background, that's way more odd than people who say grace. 

I agree with worfette though, it's a small bit mad/Californian to take up a secular version in middle age.

Nope. Last time would have been, I should think, dining in Lincoln's Inn. More than 20 years ago, sheesh.

Yeah, my last would have been at a college dinner in latin as well.  Probably the college law society.  Trick at that was to sit yourself next to Jon "Magic Boys" Collier, the daddy of renvoi.  The port bottle never passed beyond that man.  You could also only understand one word in every hundred, he must have been the model for Rowley Birkin QC.  

mumblemumblemumble PROPER LAW DOCTRINE mumble mumble mumble GIRLS IN GRASS SKIRTS WITH THEIR BOOBIES SWINGING ABOUT mumblemumblemumble MINQUIRES AND ECHREHOS mumblemumblemuble FEROCIOUS TIGERS

Can't recall the last time it happened but come across it every now and then.  As others have said it's often when there is a priest present for some reason.

Occasionally as an utterly irreligious carnivore I stop and pause about meals comprising meat or fish and contemplate what I'm about to eat and acknowledge.

Any other carnivores do this?

This I sometimes do.  Not at the point that the meal is being served, because perfect sashimi or tuna steaks have a way of making you forget about everything except said perfection, but when the bigeye tuna or whatever is hauled on board, clubbed on the head and you can visibly see the beautiful golden glow that they have when fighting and freshly landed diminish and finally disappear.  At that moment - because I'm a recreational fisherman and have the time to contemplate such things, as opposed to a deckhand on an industrial longliner where incoming fish need to be processed as quickly as possible - I do think upon the beauty, vitality and power, that can in big tuna be adequately described as magnificence, of the life I have just been responsible for extinguishing.  

I do remember grace being said a lot when I was younger but I can’t remember exactly where. It’s just a few thankful words before dinner. Thanking God then but things may have moved on. 

Yup every golf club dinner - grace is said first.  Think the Masons did too.  I find it a temporary pain when I just want to get on and eat.

Always at Burns Suppers, albeit in the form of the Selkirk Grace, which is almost, but not quite, secular.  I will probably stand for one at least twice this week.

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