France heatwave of up to 45° - it's just weather, eh?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/28/france-on-red-alert-as-he…

feck off. the EU should stop trading with countries that still build coal plants. we need to tax kerosine and in fact all CO2 emissions. we need a prohibition of fossil fuel powered cars coming into force 2022

also we should keep a list of people who talk sh1t about this issue and eliminate them one after another

we will shut down all coals plants in Germany when the greens become the strongest party, which in polls is already the case

Germans profess to be green but are anti nuclear power stations- these two positions are not currently compatible in the real world - it is the main reason I will not vote Green in the UK.

Agreed. The Green position on nuclear is absurd. Although the reason I shan't vote for them is that they're internationalist Marxists.

I am certainly not a marxist

and you cannot tackle climate change each country by itself, international cooperation is needed. but I mean who am I talking to, 3dux, rof's anchor retard

Mutti only banned nuclear in Germany after the Fukushima disaster because the geology of Germany and the Pacific Ring of Fire  are  identical.

A friend of mine is in Prague at the moment. Pretty unbearable she says. She is coming here tomorrow for lunch with me.

Only 32 degrees here probably, cool, relatively.

"the EU should stop trading with countries that still build coal plants."

Fair enough... ...the EU should therefore stop trading with two of the biggest miners of coal - Germany and Poland. It took a recent court case to stop Poland building the long-contested Polnoc coal-fired power station.

I was in Spain when it hit 45 last year. Fvck me that was hot. 

the biggest coal sinners in Europe are Poland, czech republic and germany

but in Germany, the tide is turning massively. in the EU elections, the greens were the second stringiest party with 22% and in recent polls, in a general election the greens would be the strongest party or just as strong as the conservatives, with 26%. 

plus, people between 18 and 24 vote green 34%, but only 11% vote for the conservatives. and so forth

Just checking - you do know how voting in countries that don't have a first past the post system works and the results that it tends to produce, yes?

Second stringiest party eh?  Just struggling to get my noodle around that.   Hard to lace your arguments together.  You seem to have two diametrically opposing views and never the twine shall meet.

Even an itellectual heaviweight like Gordian Brown would struggle to tie it off

but in Germany, the tide is turning massively. in the EU elections, the greens were the second stringiest party with 22% and in recent polls, in a general election the greens would be the strongest party or just as strong as the conservatives, with 26%. 

 

It is the very strength of the Greens in Germany that means they have banned nuclear power and thus continuing over reliance on fossil fuels.  Greens are entirely counterproductive on climate change because it is simply impossible to switch entirely from fossil fuel to solar/wind/tide without using nuclear power to tide us over the next half century or so.

are you an expert on energy?

I agree it would be better to switch off the coal plants first, then the nuclear plants. but people who know the score opine we can rely on renewables and I believe that too

They don't and we cant, not in the short to medium term - that is Brexit style unicorn thinking.