Equality at Wimbledon

Women can run marathons, ultras, full ironmans, play 90 minute football tournaments.  Anyone got any idea why they don’t play 5 sets at tennis grand slams?

The question is more why men *do* play 5 sets. They don't at any other level. It's best of 3

Men having to play five sets at grand slams and with so many grand slams is the primary cause of injury which completely ruins the entertainment (for those who like men’s tennis - I prefer watching women’s tennis, serena aside) because inevitably one or more of the top seeds is likely to be carrying an injury.

Reducing men to three is quite the right approach here.

Reduction or increase sounds in order.  Sounds like there isn’t any actual reason then?

There’s been lots of debate about it over the years.  Women have in fact played five sets, even as recently as Monica Seles.

It boils down to a few things.  On the women’s side, they are stuck at three because of the sexist perception of what delicate little flowers they are.  Also the very real fact that it would lead to an increase in injuries, which no one wants to happen.

On the men’s side, even more stupidly, it’s about ‘tradition’ for god only knows why.  People don’t like changing tradition, especially because it would make it harder to compare with classics from the past.

WTA Final not a grand slam but still super important - against sabatini in 1990.

Teclis 3 Jul 19 21:22

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Men having to play five sets at grand slams and with so many grand slams is the primary cause of injury which completely ruins the entertainment

total bollox

there’s no demonstrable evidence that five sets is the primary cause and it’s inconclusive on the point of whether five set matches have more injuries per set than three set matches

the obvious problems are the training intensity, the unnatural body positions/physiques and the frequency of matches on tour - problems lots of sports are having

frequency of course being the biggest; failing to rest and recover properly increases the likelihood of injury, in tennis as in all sports

The tour is a marathon not a sprint.  The problem is that five set matches require a lot of sprinting.  So much intensity for so long mixed with huge frequency of matches and tournaments is bloody obviously going to create injury issues than so much intensity for half as long.  Duh.

Can't beat the drama of a 5-setter though. They should just play 3 in the first week and 5 in the second as nobody really wants to watch the nobodies that litter the courts on week 1 anyway. It's like watching a golf challenge tour event as Ray Spoiled Brat, Former Boy's Champion, goes deep with Olivier Pesistant-Quatier-Finaliste the veteran tour pro to pick up a chunky cheque and slip quietly into the night by the rest day. 

Teclis03 Jul 19 23:13

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The tour is a marathon not a sprint.  The problem is that five set matches require a lot of sprinting.  So much intensity for so long mixed with huge frequency of matches and tournaments is bloody obviously going to create injury issues than so much intensity for half as long.  Duh.

dingaling! wrong again

only this time u’ve added more wrong weirdness that makes it sound like u’ve not only failed to read my post but u actually haven’t ever played tennis

I have actually, but wtf does that have to do with it?  I’ve -never- played football for 90 minutes but I can ramble on about training intensities and theory of it for days.  You do seem to be taking this so very personally.  Odd.

eh? 

nope, i do not take personally u being wrong, that would indeed be odd

the bottom line is that wot u wrote above is wrong for the reasons above. 

u can either accept u were wrong or u can deflect. up to u

Because womens tennis is boring and if they played five sets there would be more of it.

A 5 set women's match would also drag on a bit

Ok if they're attractive obv. 

Maybe the organisers could grade the women for attractiveness at the beginning with  Michelin style rosettes

Two 3 star rosettes playing each other get to play 5 sets

Just a thought for consideration 

Women's tennis is now unwatchable - the general grunting and howling is repellent.

Playing 5 sets in womens slam events would cause havoc with scheduling, they would need extra days to complete the tournament surely.

I think the answer to this question is mixed doubles

and I hope Serena and Muzzah win, changing perceptions on the way 

If they put ladies up to 5 sets at Wimbledon then they'd have to pay them more, surely? At the moment they receive the same pay as men but play less tennis. If they were then asked to play more their money should rise commensurately.

Alternatively, if men reduced to 3 sets at Wimbledon they should take a pay cut for the same reasons.

That is, of course, unless the current insistence on paying them the same for different amounts of work is basically a nonsense fiction thrown out as a sop to noisy activists.

I know this because I couldn't see John Fucking Isner on the recent Forbes rich list.

I don't bother watching the first couple of sets of men's tennis matches, as it is so far off the result it is dull.  That said I don't watch the later sets either because they are also dull, so what do I know or care?

Some of the five set matches really drag so I can say make them all three sets.  Will also save the misery of seeing some British hopeful go two sets up in the final only to then lose spectacularly.

It surprised me to remember that in the 80s the boxers would go 15 rounds rather than 12.  I am not convinced there is a statistical justification to say that being smacked in the nabba by an 18 stone Jabba is ok for 36 mins but not for 45 but what do I know.

 

  tbf I know I'd rather have a knee elbow or shoulder injury from too much lawn sport than parkinsona.