English Exceptionalism - the elephant in the room
Bloop Arseport 11 Jan 19 09:53
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An article and a lecture from Fintain O'Toole.  Both WS.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/the-problem-with-the-english-england-doesn-t-want-to-be-just-another-member-of-a-team-1-4851882  Article

https://vimeo.com/247411379  Lecture

Brexit is “no longer a credible national project,” said writer and commentator Fintan O’Toole at the TASC annual lecture 2017. The more it recedes as a practical proposition, the more its focus will shift into blame and betrayal, he claimed.

England is going to have find its own version of a nationalism that expresses its best, not its worst, traditions, O’Toole said. “It was not inevitable that the desire to restate English sovereignty would be channeled into chauvinism, anti-immigrant sentiment, and a misplaced conviction that if you share sovereignty in a complex arrangement like the EU, you lose it,” he stated.

However, there is a great deal that Europe can do, O’Toole said. “It can urgently recreate a European narrative of equality, dignity and protection.

“There is no Europe that is not social Europe – if the European project is not animated by the urgent imperative of social justice, it will die. And there is no democracy if it is not social democracy. Democracy cannot withstand for very long the inequality, insecurity and indignity that are produced by neoliberal globalisation.”

 

I fear for your sanity...

...you are fixated on Brexit. Raise your head for a moment the greater uncertainty lies with global issues...

Get your face out of my arse you ignorant loon.

Someone's saying something you don't want to hear so you harass them and suggest that they have mental health problems.

The person who is obsessed to the point of self-harm is clearly you.

If you don't like what I post, don't read it.  Simples.

it's okay, she gets deported back to blighty in the event of a no deal because she is dependent on FoM across EFTA for her residencey 

Oh calm down you f*ckin nutter...

Projection much?

Truth hurting?

If your so stupid you think social collapse is a good idea then I suppose I shouldn't be surprised but really m7, just don't read it and spare both of us your insecurities.

There are always going to be people who have and express views that you disagree with.  Learn to live with it.

that is rof. rofers tend to label anyone they disagree with as either weirdo, or unstable, or far right, cos it's easy and there is a feel good factor that comes with it

I’ll go on the run... ...which up here basically means moving to the house next door.

that is rof. rofers tend to label anyone they disagree with as either weirdo, or unstable, or far right, cos it's easy and there is a feel good factor that comes with it

What makes it all particularly sad is that she clearly didn't even have the time to read the article or look at the video - just jumped in with infantile abuse.  She didn't even give herself the chance to find points to disagree with, just vomited up her bile.

*pityface*

Yeah, it's a mystery why people think you're far right when you go on EDL marches and bang on about how great Tommy Robinson is...

This is RoF... ...it used to have a collective sense of humour. 

But I’ll run with your advice and steer clear of your threads.

This is RoF... ...it used to have a collective sense of humour. 

If you make a joke, let me know.

I just had a look, goose

and I do no longer respect tommy robinson, he's a brexiter and  bannon's puppet

and indeed I shall not meddle in british business. I used to think it is a european country and what is going on with islamism in the UK is not funny, to say the least, and I was therefore distraught and concerned

where I live, there is no need for an edl and indeed I vote for the green party

But you did at one time respect him? He hasn't changed you know.

What Goose said.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

m8, have you ever been to luton? I've been and I couldn't live there for two days and enither could you. yes I did respect him and initially, he did the right hing, someone had to say something

Yes, I have been to Luton. It's always been a sh1thole. 

there is a video of robinson on youtube I think it was "stacey dooley invetsigates" or something

robinson asks the next best muslim "do yu want sharia law?"

answer: "yes I do, if it is properly implemented"

do you now how many actual terrorist come/came (..) from luton?

I have a question.

Can you describe the English/British/European* culture you are trying to protect and explain how it is under threat?

 

*just choose one

I shall respond in detail but that does require some time which right now I don't have

but your question is valid

I look forward to it.  I have always wondered.

I shall respond in detail but that does require some time which right now I don't have

but your question is valid

?

No-one needs or wants to read an essay.  Just what you think and why you think it, as in the question at 10:46.

"m8, have you ever been to luton? I've been and I couldn't live there for two days and enither could you."

Luton is a dump, as are plenty of almost 100% white british workaday towns - Corby springs to mind.   What has religion or race got to do with it?