Elon Musk “asks staff to choose by Thursday between being ‘hardcore’ and working intense, long hours, or losing their jobs.” How would you respond to such a message?
I’d say “hmm, I’ll need to think on that for a while”.
If I were a shit coder with no prospects, I'd stay. If I were worth my money, I'd take the 3 months payoff and fuqoff.
I find Musk refreshing. The CEO who dominates and succeeds without all the soft bullshit that passes for leadership these days. OK he may be Aspergian but even better. I’d willingly join a business as ruthless as he seems to be making Twitter. In fact I might.
Depending on what jurisdiction I was in I might well be having a chat with an employment lawyer I think. I'd probably be seriously considering whether I needed to flag to them that my mental health was being put at risk by the toxic environment their most senior leadership seemed to be deliberately creating.
OTTH, the opportunity to work closely with Musk would probably be worth a few sacrifices, especially if the person didn’t have children or other pressing needs to spend much time at home.
It is not right to excuse Musk’s arseholeism by reference to his autism. Neurodiversity presents in all sorts of ways, but it never causes someone to act like this unless their character has a predisposition to unmitigated twottery.
I suspect that his conduct is less attributable to any medical diagnosis and more a result of the corrupting effect of power on a deeply insecure man.
wait to get "managed out" in the US means getting the sack with no notice, right?
He's wanting people to work twice (+) as hard for the same pay. I think I'd take the 3 months and look for a new job. There'd be no time to job-hunt and interview whilst working all hours.
Different deal though at law firms. If I went to work for a US firm, I’d expect long hours and great pay. If I was at another firm with normal hours and average pay, not sure many would stick around for 100hr weeks
This is the idiotic opposite to managing out the dross. By making the workplace hostile the only people you are immediately forcing out are the people with other options, who will tend to be your better workers. Those with fewer options will have to stay and work through gritted teeth.
Jeff Bezos, who’s also a dick, said once that he’d like Amazon’s workplace culture to be friendly and intense, but if he had to choose one, he’d choose intense.
At Lazcorp, I have said the same except that I’d choose friendly.
Oh Laz hey Laz that’s why he’s one of the world’s richest men and you’re not. No it isn’t fgs
Heh @ “it’s over”. Pipe down chimpy. Infrastructure teams are a dime a dozen with all these tech lay-offs and twitter isn’t exactly the most complex communication apparatus out there. If Donald Trump can start one overnight, then how hard can it be to run.
Id go on twitter with a few woop-yeahs about what a great job hes doing and how its great to see the soft culture kicked up the butt and how reenergised I am - even though I was already working damn hard!
Say something musk-esque to get more followers
Woop yeahs
Tag the Elon himself
Woop yeah woop yeah
invent someone i sacked!
YOU ARE FIRES WOKEY!
WOOP- YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*does 10% less work*
*asks for a pay rise when everyone else has fooked off*
Heh @ “it’s over”. Pipe down chimpy. Infrastructure teams are a dime a dozen with all these tech lay-offs and twitter isn’t exactly the most complex communication apparatus out there.
+1 for not quit but then basically phone it in totally until you get managed out. Could get away with doing nothing for 12 months before they realise you’re trolling them.
What level of infrastructure expertise do you reckon Litmanen has to judge that a site that will likely need to serve up to a million tweets per minute with millisecond response times at the peak of the World Cup "isn't exactly the most complex communication apparatus out there"
If I were a shit coder with no prospects, I'd stay. If I were worth my money, I'd take the 3 months payoff and fuqoff.
I'd stay, chill for a bit, get managed out or fired, get a new job.
dick pic
Two fingered salute followed by a resignation letter.
I am beginning to wonder if, just maybe, musk is an absolute bellend
Tbf rof probabky isnt the most fertile ground for this brand of corporate spafftalk
Hmm, get beasted by a world-famous arsehole or not? Tough one
I’d make a mental note that at university a friend would claim a productive morning if he’d had a bath. So it’s all relative
Stay on while looking for a new job.
I find Musk refreshing. The CEO who dominates and succeeds without all the soft bullshit that passes for leadership these days. OK he may be Aspergian but even better. I’d willingly join a business as ruthless as he seems to be making Twitter. In fact I might.
Respond with my new wage demands
Pay double for double the hours
Working at Twitter must be lots of fun at the moment. I can imagine that everyone is super motivated right now.
Yeh, wot AOP said. Why commit career suicide?
Hang in there for alap with the appreciation that it's the unwritten option for most us anyway.
lol @ his dinosaur views and say “good luck with gen z m7, they just won’t have it”
but if that’s the approach he wants 2 take then fine by me. his money, his business
Depending on what jurisdiction I was in I might well be having a chat with an employment lawyer I think. I'd probably be seriously considering whether I needed to flag to them that my mental health was being put at risk by the toxic environment their most senior leadership seemed to be deliberately creating.
Presumably he gets away with it now whilst there are big redundancies in other tech companies. People then walk when the market turns.
danger is the really good, in demand people go to another better paying job now.
if it was me, I’d work 5% harder and wait to be managed out. I’d be interested to see how this plays out in the Twitter Paris or Berlin/Munich offices
How is he going to measure it?
Tweets per hour?
Or just face time?
Ironic if it's facetime....
If you thought taking a job at Twitter was a good idea then you’re probably not the best judge of anything tbf.
I'm struggling to see a situation where he doesn't crash Twitter in some shape or form given his behaviour.
OTTH, the opportunity to work closely with Musk would probably be worth a few sacrifices, especially if the person didn’t have children or other pressing needs to spend much time at home.
Rubbo if being managed out is your goal why even bother with working 5% harder?
That's exactly the type he wants crypto, not those pesky parents with school runs and last minute WFH emergencies
Yup, it’ll be incel central
It is not right to excuse Musk’s arseholeism by reference to his autism. Neurodiversity presents in all sorts of ways, but it never causes someone to act like this unless their character has a predisposition to unmitigated twottery.
I suspect that his conduct is less attributable to any medical diagnosis and more a result of the corrupting effect of power on a deeply insecure man.
Yeah seems so Davos. A bit limiting the pool, though. He’s going to end up with young people who know nothing or misfit weirdos.
wait to get "managed out" in the US means getting the sack with no notice, right?
He's wanting people to work twice (+) as hard for the same pay. I think I'd take the 3 months and look for a new job. There'd be no time to job-hunt and interview whilst working all hours.
Turn my computer off, walk out and never come back.
I’d have resigned directly after the “let that sink in” joke.
If he pays over the odds for people to work harder than at competitors fair enough (see US law firms) if he doesnt he will lose staff hand over fist.
Heh at all the lawyers who'd stick it to the man and refuse to work long hours...
Different deal though at law firms. If I went to work for a US firm, I’d expect long hours and great pay. If I was at another firm with normal hours and average pay, not sure many would stick around for 100hr weeks
First thing he did was ice the marketing team. Gets my vote.
This is the idiotic opposite to managing out the dross. By making the workplace hostile the only people you are immediately forcing out are the people with other options, who will tend to be your better workers. Those with fewer options will have to stay and work through gritted teeth.
Refreshing that he isn’t hiding his demands like many many other employers do. Pits choice in hands of current employees. Sounds fair to me
What Lee said.
It would probably depend what skills I had and how employable I was elsewhere tbh.
Jeff Bezos, who’s also a dick, said once that he’d like Amazon’s workplace culture to be friendly and intense, but if he had to choose one, he’d choose intense.
At Lazcorp, I have said the same except that I’d choose friendly.
Oh Laz hey Laz that’s why he’s one of the world’s richest men and you’re not. No it isn’t fgs
Bezos is a ledge.
I suppose I’ve created an atmosphere where I’m a friend first and a boss second. Probably an entertainer third...
heh
would be absolutely hilarious if he has to try to walk it back due to nobody saying yes
He's a plonker.
Apparently 75% told him to shove it.
Could really be the end of Twitter
if he tanks twitter would it b the most rapid way 2 lose 44bn of all time?
Think so yes. Hopefully it wrecks the value of his Tesla stake too. Ideally he’ll end up a junior manager at Debenham’s.
twotter offices now closed until Monday appaz …
Several “critical infrastructure teams” completely resigned apparently. It’s over.
apart from the mini-budget, you mean?
How will the world cope?
Heh @ “it’s over”. Pipe down chimpy. Infrastructure teams are a dime a dozen with all these tech lay-offs and twitter isn’t exactly the most complex communication apparatus out there. If Donald Trump can start one overnight, then how hard can it be to run.
Musk fans are the most tragic of all. Ranking above even Jordan Peterson fans.
He's like Tony Stark but reeeeaaaalllllll
Id go on twitter with a few woop-yeahs about what a great job hes doing and how its great to see the soft culture kicked up the butt and how reenergised I am - even though I was already working damn hard!
Say something musk-esque to get more followers
Woop yeahs
Tag the Elon himself
Woop yeah woop yeah
invent someone i sacked!
YOU ARE FIRES WOKEY!
WOOP- YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*does 10% less work*
*asks for a pay rise when everyone else has fooked off*
Guess we’ll see won’t we.
+1 for not quit but then basically phone it in totally until you get managed out. Could get away with doing nothing for 12 months before they realise you’re trolling them.
”sure boss I’ll get that right to you”
*watches Minder on ITV4*
What level of infrastructure expertise do you reckon Litmanen has to judge that a site that will likely need to serve up to a million tweets per minute with millisecond response times at the peak of the World Cup "isn't exactly the most complex communication apparatus out there"
I’ll just observe the very large number of newly-minted tech recruitment specialists
Yawn. I've been working like that for most of my life ffs. Last holiday 2019, and I work bank holidays also.
I'd work Musk under the table, tbh.
C'est la vie
Are you bragging about this?
absolute douche, he’s been hosed here
he’ll end up selling the bare bones tech to MSNBC for about a bil, and having to sell Tesla to pay off his personal guarantees for the debt package
infrastructure teams, faod, are not a dime a dozen with all these tech layoffs, check how many infilled vacancies there are in tech.
musk is over
Wot chimp said.
‘Look at the chargeable hours on that’ they whispered reverently as the corpse was taken under a blanket out of the office.
Travelling to funeral and prepping in transit - 6 units
Funeral Service - 9 units
Return from funeral service, compiling attendance note - 6 units.
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