Hopefully both will be booted off air for this https://x.com/avasantina/status/1706777983241822705?s=61&t=3lWj0RN-4doE… There will be zero meaningful consequences 2 Vote up! Lozza also supporting criminal activity in the capital. Additional heh @ scameras here. 2 Vote up! It's not a great look for lozza But his fans will like it so doubt he will be cancelled Btw laughing at male suicide is an awful thing to do 1 Vote up! Politics Live about 38-45 mins in on Iplayer. Geoff Norcott was trying to discuss his new book which is about deconstructing the British Bloke and he started to try and discuss issues relating to male loneliness and suicide after they raised the minister for men debate. He said he didn’t understand the hostility towards the concept of giving struggling men some focussed support. Ava Santina (Politics Joe) told him that it’s about culture war and making an enemy of women and that men only have a higher suicide rate because they are more successful at it. Also said that women did more work than men during Covid (?). Frances O’Grady (TUC) despite acknowledging that men are raised to hide their emotions (yet seemingly obstructing the discussion of male welfare), then asked Geoff Norcott to start a charity for ‘blokes against sexual harassment’ and said men should support women, again not wrong in isolation but why could he not talk about male welfare without the topic ending here in the space of about two minutes. He actually reacted to it very well and said he in no way contested what they were saying but wanted to discuss male welfare. He was pushed into a defensive position where he was borderline apologetic, but also noted that he thought he could discuss male welfare without being shunted away to something else. It was really quite unedifying and sad to watch. I think it’s time to have safe male spaces where men can discuss their problems without women diminishing, demeaning, denying and gaslighting. 6 Vote up! Nobody sensible disagrees with that But in the same way lozza makes money off sexism, Tories love racism etc Some women make their careers off this stuff They are idiots and a minority 1 Vote up! If people like this are on your side on any given issue, question whether you are on the right side. 2 Vote up! Who are you talking about Tom? I assume the woman who thinks suicide is funny but can’t be sure as you have some very edgelord takes 5 Vote up! Also, what a dumb argument. Hitler liked walking in the Alps so if you find that enjoyable you’d better take a good hard look in the mirror. 3 Vote up! This is full on turbo-charged culture war nonsense. GB News love it, Twitter loves it, politicians use it when it suits them. Way of the world now and it’s only going to get worse. 0 Vote up! I was surprised at Frances O’Grady actually naming it BASH, which I thought was crass, yet nobody seemed to care or even notice. Ava-Santina later apologised on Twitter which I thought was good. Norcott was good generally imo. But the main much more important point is Fox and Wootton’s behaviour was disgusting. 1 Vote up! love the idea of co-opting "culture war" as a way of hand waving away the most rancid misogyny no harm done, it's just culture war. all sides etc. 0 Vote up! Well from experience on here when I have raised male equality points like ‘men should get equal parental leave’ (some) women are very quick to pipe up with ‘you sound like an incel’ ,‘I bet nobody wants to f you’ and ‘small dick energy’ etc and so yes it’s deplorable but it seems to be a standard response from people engaged in this nonsense. 3 Vote up! HA HA HA LOZZA AND THE WOOTSTER ARE LEGENDS AND THIS AVA SANTINA CHARACTER IS NO DOUBT AN UGLY FRIGID COW WHO NEEDS TO LEARN HER PLACE!! #BREXITBRITAIN #GOWOKEGOBROKE 0 Vote up! love the idea of co-opting "culture war" as a way of hand waving away the most rancid misogyny I wasn’t dismissing it. I’m saying there’s a space now for this form of discourse to thrive and it will only get worse. Real money to be made from shock jocks saying offensive stuff, engagement ramps up across multiple platforms, politicians who use it when it suits them. Look at America. GB News is only the beginning. 0 Vote up! ‘Who are you talking about Tom?‘ Fox and Wooton, obviously. 1 Vote up! GBeebies have denounced Lozza and apologised. Imagine being too much of a khunt for the GBeebies bosses to stand behind. What chance Lozza rocking up on Russell Brand's rumble show in the near future? 2 Vote up! lol also at Woottons apology: "Soz" then "Soz having actually watched again it I appear to be laughing along and joining in but I wasn't really, honest" 4 Vote up! Wootton will be eagerly awaiting the next issue of Byline Times 0 Vote up! Having watched him smiling and laughing along, he really, really, really reminds me of Brick in Anchor Man. 3 Vote up! What cookie said It’s all just to sell advertising for these shock jocks - you get the anti men statement, you get the anti women response, (or vice versa) drives engagement and online buzz the commercial news channels are quite open about how they do it now. BBC is more coy but it’s going down the same path the mouth breathers lap it up 0 Vote up! How can the BBC be going down the same path when it doesn't carry adverts? 1 Vote up! BBC wants market share and clicks just like everyone else. Helps with justifying salaries and so on. 0 Vote up! All organisations want to grow. Without growth it's difficult to retain people because everything becomes a zero sum game. 0 Vote up! @danwootton I want to reiterate my regret over last night’s exchange with Laurence on GB News. Having looked at the footage, I can see how inappropriate my reaction to his totally unacceptable remarks appears to be and want to be clear that I was in no way amused by the comments bla bla bla bla khuntweasel words bla bla Followed up with: @LozzaFox Honesty is the best policy. LOL. Fight to the death? 4 Vote up! lol also at Woottons apology: "Soz" then "Soz having actually watched again it I appear to be laughing along and joining in but I wasn't really, honest" Fox has now published texts of Wootton laughing about it afterwards. This is excellent khunt on khunt warfare. 4 Vote up! Imagine wootton being considered too woke. Christ. 0 Vote up! When I invited the leopard onto my show to talk about faces that needed eating, I didn't realise he meant mine! 8 Vote up! How can the BBC be going down the same path when it doesn't carry adverts? they will have performance metrics based on viewership same as everyone else. Gary linaker published internal streaming figures the other day (naughty boy) by way of justifying his salary, so at the very least it matters to the talent, who get paid more if they have higher ratings 0 Vote up! Absolute scenes. he’s taking on GB news now 🍿🍿🍿 https://twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1706958680241914115?s=46&t=Gq6LevnmvzwJvsMpYLZB7A 2 Vote up! It's poor behaviour but I don't think it should be a perma ban. Maybe tell him to stay off air for a month or so. Don't know who this lady is but from what I can see she isn't coming across very well either. Not just because of the comments on male suicide - someone also posted multiple tweets she's made telling various men there's no hope she'd shag them. 1 Vote up! That’s a meme 1 Vote up! It's poor behaviour but I don't think it should be a perma ban. Au contraire Walter. I think he should be put in the stocks and pelted with rotten fruit for eternity. 2 Vote up! Anyway, it’s now blue on blue 1 Vote up! OH GOD I CAN’T BEAR IT, IT’S LIKE MY PARENTS ARE FIGHTING!! 6 Vote up! it is QUITE funny 2 Vote up! Like, probably, many people I'm torn between not giving a shit who's on GBNews because I'm never going to watch it, and wondering if I should be exercised about it because some people are watching, and those are people who do not seem to know, or want to know, that they are being fed a diet of misdirection, misrepresentation, and fake news. 3 Vote up! Blade runners have been paying per camera disabling since the start. End of that story I agree with precisely nothing that Ava Santina says, but Fox sunk to the lowest level in his deranged metaphor. This just completes his gradual decline from unexpected anarchist to third rate posh-sarcastic-miserable political buffoon 1 Vote up! I wonder how wide the debate will go. Thing is, contra Fox, no red blooded male wouldn’t want to shag Ava. She’s smart funny blonde and in great shape. She posts holiday pix on her Insta and screenshots of cringe DMs from ‘admirers’ in a way that suggests she is not easily intimidated and has a long term future in journalism. All of which makes Fox look even sadder. 1 Vote up! On that show on Monday she absolutely demolished Damian Green, because she was properly prepared with relevant stats and he was all over the shop. I’m a fan. 0 Vote up! Why do any of you watch and follow this utter garbage? It’s utterly irrelevant to me and virtually everyone else. 2 Vote up! She worked for James O'B for a while. That is the live broadcast equivalent of learning from Yoda. 1 Vote up! £2 a penny says they are brexiteers 2 Vote up! Fox turning on Wootton is quite funny. Cookie's furious rubbing of his trousers as he talks about what great shape this woman is in is quite repulsive. 2 Vote up! Frankly I wouldn’t want to shag ANY woman who disagreed with ANY of my views, so frankly I can see exactly where he was coming from on this one!!! No offence to women or the snowflake brigade!!! 0 Vote up! Heh also at Fox now turning on GBNews and Wooton - screenshotted his notes to producers telling them what he was going to say... 0 Vote up! "Heh also at Fox now turning on GBNews and Wooton - screenshotted his notes to producers telling them what he was going to say..." this is really very funny 0 Vote up! How long before this tool becomes Prime Minister State of the world being what it is, n all 0 Vote up! Lozza received the same vote share (1%) as Count Binface in the Uxbridge by-election. I really doubt we'll be seeing him securing any real power ever. 2 Vote up! bUt uLez aNd sMaLL bOatS and LgbtQ 2 Vote up! "How long before this tool becomes Prime Minister" It's all a bit Black Mirror/ Waldo Moment. 0 Vote up! Both Wootton and Lozza now suspended by GBeebies! FAFO moment 0 Vote up! The only reason GBNews is doing anything at all about this, IMHO, is that the owner is trying to buy the Telegraph. Jesus Christ global prospects are bleak. 0 Vote up! The telegraph has basically the same editorial line as GBeebies now tbh, just with the thinning veneer of being a once respectable publication. 0 Vote up! Spurius still sore that his ‘friends’ didn’t leave a forwarding address for him 0 Vote up! As usual I have no idea what your post means, cookie. 0 Vote up! And yet you seemed so sure just earlier on. Well I never. 0 Vote up! it means he’s registering his astonishment that your supposed mates (by which he is alluding to them as really being acquaintances) did not ensure that others knew how to contact you by providing an alternative postal location 0 Vote up! As with all things cookie, it seems to refer to auld hatreds from long ago and a mysterious other place where his enemies have migrated. 0 Vote up! Cookie - yes, your earlier post was a rare occasion when it was all too clear what you meant. Maybe stick to the italics posts no one can understand. 0 Vote up! Oracle - very helpful. RR - I see, although no idea what that has to do with me. 0 Vote up! It's cuck behaviour to show text messages and what not The worst thing is that it's distracted from a very serious message about male suicide And yes you can be against male suicide and pro women's rights 0 Vote up! Yes that's definitely the worst thing about this. That it distracted from a short program which hardly anyone would have noticed anyway. A pro women's rights person speaks. 0 Vote up! He’s now accused Julia Hartley-Brewer of virtue signalling. We are through the looking glass here, people. 0 Vote up! I watched the Politics Live clip he's cross about. Santina wasn't actually that bad. It was more O'Grady. Norcott came across as a nice guy. "We have a 2 min slot allocated to talk about men for a bit, please could I raise the subject of suicide being the #1 cause of death amongst men under 50?" "No! No! We can't discuss that! We must use the slot to discuss male violence against women!" 1 Vote up! What Tom said about The Telegraph. The racism and bigotry in the comment sections is just a more eloquent version of those in The Daily Express. 0 Vote up! “more eloquent”? 0 Vote up! I’d be glad if I never have to see Dan W again and his tedious one man hate campaign against Meghan Markle that does seem to be the trick in getting notoriety these days - find a wedge issue and triple down on it. Remember the multi tun threads chill and Anna could produce from the same 2 or 3 talking points 0 Vote up! pyrrhic, wang notm7 yeah yeah. i’ve told u that b4 but did u listen?!? the point of a daly pen is we get the three points 2 secure the losing bonus point (and top the group) right? 0 Vote up! sozzles wrong thread 0 Vote up! How can the BBC be going down the same path when it doesn't carry adverts except for adverts for its own content? Fixed that for you and love those moments when they run a story on the lunchtime news and it turns out to just be an ad for Panorama. 0 Vote up! Oh god, I thought at least on ROF I wouldn't have to deal so often with posters triumphantly grabbing the wrong f*cking end of the stick and running away with it like a grinning Labrador. 0 Vote up! It's interesting that Wootton chose to pretend he hadn't been amused by Fox's ghastly slurs. I'm not sure what it says, but at least Fox took it on the chin. 0 Vote up! Surprised GB News, home of the anti-woke, didn't back both of them to the hilt. Instant massive cred with riskygeorge and his ilk. 1 Vote up! @AdamBienkov Follow Dan Wootton's crowdfunder, which he claimed was to pay for legal action against @BylineTimes, and which raised at least £37,000 from his supporters, has now been taken down. Hehehehe. Riskies being taken for a ride, as usual. 5 Vote up! That £37k will have been converted into gak for the GBeebies staff sesh for sure. 1 Vote up! for his leaving party from M*** on line? They've cancelled him 0 Vote up! Mail contract terminated. Sorry to hear Dan you may need that 37k 0 Vote up! >> Dan and out << Ignoring is bliss Dan Wootton's dramatic downfall these past 48 hours has drawn some fitting comparisons to Al Capone getting done for tax evasion. All of a sudden he's persona non grata at GB News – not because of the multiple, well-sourced allegations of serious sexual misconduct and workplace harassment that have clouded him for months; but because he sat grinning gormlessly, like a wallaby getting its balls tickled, as one of his guests delivered a hugely sexist rant unchecked. However, there was a little more going on behind the scenes. Even though on screen he might have just looked hopelessly out of his depth, the reason Wootton has incurred the wrath of his bosses is because he was repeatedly and actively ignoring multiple management commands. From the start of Fox's rant, the voice in Dan's earpiece was telling him to stop Fox, to push back and apologise – but he tuned it out. Then one of the senior bods drafted an apology for him to read out after the item – and he skipped past it on the autocue. Then the top brass were on the phone to the studio, insisting Dan apologise on air – and he just didn't. 2 Vote up! Sounds hilarious but I doubt the GBnews production team were doing anything other than guffawing and egging them on. This is a post hoc bullshit story to defend against the ofcom inquiry. If they release the recordings and I'm wrong then I'll eat my pubes. 0 Vote up! I see Fox has 'apologised'. As in 'Well obviously I wasn't saying anything that wasn't true but perhaps a word here or there could have been tweaked', that sort of apology. Says 'I know I'm going to be sacked tomorrow [today] but I just want to say this because that wasn't who I am'. His followers must be confused, because he's spent the last couple of years making it look as though that's exactly who he is. 0 Vote up! Laurence Fox's apology in full: - sorry not sorry - rich white men are the real victims here - please send money - I'm an attention seeking twot 0 Vote up! fully agree with hotnow’ long post above pancakes’ riposte absolute bogshite men’s welfare is an important issue and deserves to be discussed in its own right in safe spaces without being forced to see it through women’s lens it IS, absolutely, a culture war issue 1 Vote up! I saw the Fox apology, it was total nonsense. I would have thought for an actor he could have done a lot better even if he didn't mean it ( which quite obviously he didn't). I think he is first quite stupid and at the same time loosing his marbles. Maybe got increasingly bitter after Billie left him. Would love to know what the rest of the acting dynasty think of him. 0 Vote up! The non-apology is just the next stage in the grift. IF THE WOKE MOB CAN CANCEL ME JUST THINK WHAT THEY WILL DO TO YOU!!!! ps please donate to my crowdfunder xxx 0 Vote up! He strikes me as a low budget Russel Brand 0 Vote up! I voted Lozza for London mayor. Would do again tbh. 0 Vote up! 😂 3 Vote up! As if Russell Brand isn't low budget enough. Fox needs to get on Rumble or whatever and start chuffing about men's rights and deep conspiracies and soon he'll be bobbing along on several grand a month of advertising revenue. 0 Vote up! I agree Benj, but watched the first 10 mins of RBs latest rumble thing the other day. I had also watched the Netflix series on how to become a cult leader and RB is straight out of the text book. I find is style and general anti establishment thing quite engaging, then have to catch myself. Russel Brand is dangerous, Fox is just a washed up ex actor full of bitterness. 1 Vote up! IS THERE A CROWD FUNDER?!? I WANT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT!! 2 Vote up! Oh no, Calvin Robinson is not going to appear on Gbeebies until Wootton is cleared of wrongdoing. How awful. 0 Vote up! Sideshow God? 0 Vote up! Fox has been interviewed on something called Trigger(!!!!!)nometry. I’m sure that isn’t a total and utter car crash. 0 Vote up! What a rollercoaster https://x.com/lozzafox/status/1707303559916605788?s=46 1 Vote up! The ranting of a broken and bitter man. 2 Vote up! Classic. All the greatest hits there. 3 Vote up! Ofcom A regulator created to ensure the state narrative is persistently and regularly hammered into every home. I mean, you could argue that that is the effect it has had. Difficult argument, but not impossible. But you simply cannot argue that that is why it was created. 0 Vote up! Free speech The right to say what you want And the right for everyone else to think you are a khunt for saying it 0 Vote up! It isn't a free speech issue. It's about should TV be a forum for just throwing crude insults at people, and the answer is no (although, generally, leftists aren't exactly shy about insulting people with the wrong opinions either). 0 Vote up! Disagree Tory George 1 Vote up! Pagination Current page 1 Page 2 Next page next Last page last Refresh Back to board Join the discussion Login Register 0 Vote up!