Corbyn to back Brexit in return for some stuff

So much for conference and McDonnell on a second ref

”Here are my principles, if you don’t like them.......”

Heh.  Amazing isn't it? Staunch Brexiteer pretending not to be one will accept bribe to support something as close to his heart as terrorists.

Good man... ...if only there were more politicians who were prepared to compromise.

I thought his letter was the most coherent position Labour have made yet..  Presumably drafted by Starmer

Hasn't he just asked for stuff that May has said are red lines and he knows she can never agree to, and that will not get through the commons?

Stuff like freedom of movement and membership of the EU?

That's what I thought ???!

It was basically being in the EU on terms that the EU said couldn't happen and Brexiteers would have an embolism with! 

Further reinforces the sense that, quite apart from the spinelessness, JC and his gang just don’t understand how much they don’t understand. Classic hard left hubris. All wind and piss, nothing but nothing of substance. 

His strategy is to hope that the meaningful vote keeps on failing and eventually he will get his no confidence vote through. 

 

He is only interested in a general election and very action he take sis to secure that, not any particular brexit outcome. 

"Corbyn to back Brexit in return for some stuff"

 

Sounds like a Daily Mash headline.

What has he actually asked for?

Reduced VAT on jams AND chutneys?

Union law stuff.

The Labour leadership’s role in brexit continues to be an absolute disgrace

Let’s be very clear about this. However much froth the loony left brew up in hatred of the steady middle ground, they leave most of the electorate cold.

But those of us will long memories will not forget this travesty, and we certainly won’t be giving handouts to anyone.

Isn't it the original 5 tests  - staying in the CU, worker protections, etc?  That May has already said no to... 

"But those of us will long memories will not forget this travesty"

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Think that applies to both traditional Labour and Tory voters.

The next General Election is going to be... interesting.

You get what you give.

 

If we had a GE tomorrow, I would really struggle to decide who to vote for.  I have voted labour all my life, except for in 2016 when I voted lib dem because of its position on brexit (heh). 

 

It's a safe ask from him that he knows will never happen so he won't have to do anything.

He is only interested in a general election and very action he take sis to secure that, not any particular brexit outcome.

He'd rather be PM of an exited UK but PM of an EU member UK would be an acceptable second best for him. 

Kimmy - same on the struggle - all of our main parties have been utterly sh1te on holding a clear line or showing they're remotely capable / worthy of government over this. At least one (perhaps the only) positive of Brexit is it has shown how weak, incompetent and unfit for office most of our politicians are. Something has to give and address that.

There's a storm coming in GE terms.

The system is massively rigged to preserve the status quo, though.

It will need keen minds under the current rules to pierce through the cr@p and remove the utter rot throughout.

 

what Kimmy and BC said

The country is no longer Conservative or Labour, we are only Leave or Remain, and FFS please will all the Remainers break away and set up something new we can vote for? Ta.

At least one (perhaps the only) positive of Brexit is it has shown how weak, incompetent and unfit for office most of our politicians are. Something has to give and address that.

But, just as there is absolutely zero that's new on the horizon as to how the NI border can be resolved, there's also no sign in this of anything fresh and intelligent emerging from the current morass of left/right venal tribalism.

 

There have been reports of middle-ground labour MPs planning a spin-off.  Wish they would get on with it, tbh.  Perhaps today's developments will give them a nudge.

Why don't they join the Lib Dems?

Also the people suggesting this are odious twats like Owen Smith. Good luck getting people to vote for that.