The Charles pen incident

Interesting. This would fit with all the stories of his rages about having his eggs just right when coming back in from shooting p(h)easants etc. 

The initial reaction is just on the 'fair enough' side of irritation when you're constantly in the public gaze, probably short on sleep, high on anxiety etc. People don't expect the King to be wandering around with ink-stained hands. 

It's the second phase reaction, a few seconds later, that is the most interesting/worrying bit however. A flash of nasty petulance which all around him at the time pretend isn't happening (which signals loud and clear he has been like this often). 

The only consolation would seem to be its impotence - it isn't directed at anyone in particular and seems to be fizzling out as he exits shot. 

Instantly made me think of a lost little boy, desperate for someone to really listen to him. I blame the Gordonstoun of the '60s/whoever it was who sent him there (I'm only half joking).

Gordonstoun is a great school for those that can hack it. For sensitive souls like Charles, Eton would have been a better bet. 

Yes, well, the point is whether he realises the optics are poor and to be avoided or if he doesn’t care. If the latter then it’ll happen again in public. 

I doubt he can control his emotions. If he hasn't managed it for 73 years as heir I doubt he’ll manage it now.

 A flash of nasty petulance which all around him at the time pretend isn't happening (which signals loud and clear he has been like this often). 

 

what does this mean?  Do you think that, if this were the first such incident, the royal flunkies would have taken him to task?!  

Christ, I’m bored of this whole fvcking charade but he’s old, tired, just lost his mum and hasn’t had a moment to himself for almost a week. I’d be bloody short tempered too. Also, he and Wills have notoriously short fuses anyway. Stroppy bastards are stroppy. See also: ROF!!!

I think it's reasonable to be hacked off when you're given a leaky pen to sign an official doc in front of a bank of cameras.  Add in the circumstances and it's not surprising he has a moan. 

Stroppy bastard would not be a favourable quality for a head of state if we actually got to choose who they are.

What Dusty said.  As per other thread I've been known to aggressively throw pens into bins when they've leaked on me and work documents so it's hardly an unusual reaction.

I also read somewhere that apparently he doesn't even have eggs for breakfast so that story is completely made up.

 A flash of nasty petulance which all around him at the time pretend isn't happening (which signals loud and clear he has been like this often). 

 

what does this mean?  Do you think that, if this were the first such incident, the royal flunkies would have taken him to task?!  

 

- in terms of answering back, of course not. But none of them - notably inc Camilla - show a flicker. If it were the 1st time I would have perhaps expected a small, quickly stifled look of surprise/shock from one of them. 

 

 

I think it's reasonable to be hacked off when you're given a leaky pen to sign an official doc in front of a bank of cameras.  Add in the circumstances and it's not surprising he has a moan. 

- this I agree with. But he doesn't have a moan, he goes out of his way to have a quick, directionless tantrum in full view of a room full of people (but not realising he is on camera)

 

And Camilla then pointed out to him that he'd fvcked the date up anyway because she won't have any of it.

a quick, directionless tantrum

What's wrong with that? If he had stabbed one of the aides with the pen, or rubbed the ink on their pristine white shirt, or chucked the pen at someone or something then you might have a point, but he just mumbled a quick, directionless tantrum.

Totally harmless and perfectly understandable in the circumstances.

He does not seem to have much grace under pressure and although I think the death of your own mother should register in his mood and emotional state, he does seem mighty pissed off that what he was "born to be" has at last now come to pass. 

Camilla also does not look too overjoyed with her new role.

Perhaps if HRH/His Maj would be more coordinated if he did standard, everyday things like put toothpaste on his own toothbrush... 

a quick, directionless tantrum

What's wrong with that? If he had stabbed one of the aides with the pen, or rubbed the ink on their pristine white shirt, or chucked the pen at someone or something then you might have a point, but he just mumbled a quick, directionless tantrum.

Totally harmless and perfectly understandable in the circumstances.

 

- 3 probs with it:

1. It's not nice behaviour to be around. Watch the vid.

2. It really doesn't fly from someone in his position.

3. Disconnect between his public persona and this. 

 

Don't and didn't see the Queen falling into any of those 3 beartraps.

 

"Eton would have been a better bet. "

Well yes, except that Alan Clark said that after Eton, he understood the meaning of Original Sin 

That's why they invented ink wells 

I've yet to find a fountain pen that operates as well as a biro 

Isn't this pen a bit scratchy?

Don't worry sir, it'll bed in in time

Fk off 

I would have flung it at whomever o thought responsible so I admire his restraint. He's the fooking king FFS and they can't get him a pem that doesn't leak. 

The reason you never saw his mother behave like that is because nobody in their right mind would have put a leaky pen in front of her. 

’Gordonstoun is a great school for those that can hack it. For sensitive souls like Charles, Eton would have been a better bet’

could always pick a school where they don’t bum you ofc

What struck me was all the fuss. And Camilla making things worse by saying it had gone everywhere. Any tiny thing goes wrong, and everyone goes into a ridiculous panic and he walks off.

He is literally unable to do anything.

How about "Oh damn, get me a new pen and some wipes would you James."

But no, a bit of ink on his finger and he literally doesn't know what to do and gets angry. And Camilla starts jumping around as well.

Already low opinion became lower.

 

Stroppy bastard would not be a favourable quality for a head of state if we actually got to choose who they are.
 

Oh yes, because we do such a great job with our elected leaders.

Personally I would have heaved the pen at the bin, sworn at it and called it a khunt, torn up the document with the wrong date and told someone to bring me a new one and a better fooking pen. 

It’s a good thing I’m not royalty. 

 

"They had lined the queen up to retire. Then backtracked."

1. Who is "they"?

2. What source are you relying on?

3. What year was this?

But at least you would have done something about it Scylla. Your actions would achieve the result of getting a new pen and a new document. Actually I think this is exactly how royalty should behave. 

But what we witnessed was a man incapable of doing anything for himself, getting very frustrated over a very minor mishap.

 

It was probably the last straw.

Anyway, he is known for having a short fuse which he gets from his father iirc. Isn’t Anne the same?

so what

If anything, this underlines the need to maintain a distance from the public/media instead of going too transparent.

@simonsaid, I was struck by that, in he probably does absolutely nothing whatsoever for himself. He couldn't move a pen tray or piece of paper.

Imagine not knowing how to apply toothpaste or iron a shirt, or make a bacon roll.

All reminiscent of that Irish guy who was supposed to arrange a hot meal for Clarkson etc, after a hard day ,who Clarkson got flak for for bawling him out 

Occasionally you just lose it 

Gordonstoun sounds like a fvcking bell hole.

So chaz has a bit of a temper. Who cares.

also what scylla said

I railed at my wife SORT THIS SHIT OUT FGS when it turned out my elder daughter’s school dress belt (nb not the dress itself) was missing a button, this morning. 

None of us are saints

Imagine not knowing how to apply toothpaste or iron a shirt, or make a bacon roll.

He will have been taught to do all of these things both at school and in the Navy.

I'm glad they've fitted in a day of rest for him today as must be absolutely exhausted.

Exhausted by what?

He doesn't do anything. He gets told what to do. Other people organise everything. All he does is show up.

 

Exhausted by having to fly all over the country being polite to strangers when you really just want to sit in a corner and cry.

Sails he has probably forgotten. 

But as I say he I am sure does nothin whatsoever, including applying toothpaste or running a bath. Awaits 3 Ducks to comment its draw a bath you pikey.