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Carole Codswallop

She claims that calling her "Codswallop" is a "misogynists’ dog whistle".

It's not though, is it?

If you called her a Mad Cat Lady that might be, but "Codswallop" is devoid of sexist connotation. 

I do sometimes despair of my fellow Remainiacs.

I think it is part of a sexist attempt to undermine her tho would not on its own and absent of andrew neil context be sexist

andrew neil was really ruined for me by that whole thing

I expect the Guardian might defend her with their bottomless tax-efficient Scott Trust, but not sure TED Talks will be so happy to throw good money after bad in supporting her.

She was always going to be the subject of personal attacks and attempts to discredit and undermine her after what she exposed about the illegal activity of Vote Leave and Cambridge Analytica. These people don't like it up 'em.

Lady Penelope - call me old-fashioned, but as a lawyer I do tend to stick with "innocent until proven guilty". In England & Wales we frown on conviction by accusation and hearsay.

Lady Penelope - some of the most ardent Remain voters are happy to identify as Remainiacs. I didn't say Remoaner, that's hateful. 

https://www.remainiacs.com/ - "REMAINIACS is the no-b*llsh#t Brexit podcast for people who won’t just shut up and get over Brexit. Every week we take an honest look at the unfolding shambles that is Britain’s departure from the EU. Now you can back us on PATREON. Pledge a few quid a month, get cool mugs, t-shirts and other stuff, and #OwnTheRemoan.

"...if you witness someone being shot in the head, and then the attacker runs away and is never found..." - what you have likely described there is murder, although as lawyers we'd need a full set of facts to be sure. A crime has been committed, a criminal is yet to be found.

So now you've described that crime, how about you set out the facts from these articles which convince you one has been committed in relation to Brexit?

I see someone has run the Banks doesn't have to give disclosure load of codswallop.

 

If she defends the allegations and if Banks sues, she will plead justification and Banks will be required to give disclosure on the items pleaded as justification. He will also have to give evidence and be cross examined.

You refuse to educate me! I've merely asked. What have you got to hide?

Caroline Lucas and some other MPs are event taking the Met Police to court for failure to prosecute. Now I know that means she doesn't understand how prosecutions work in the UK, but nevertheless it does mean she can point to crimes which you seem less keen on sharing.

??? - tbf I did write "what you have described there is likely murder, although as lawyers we'd need a full set of facts to be sure". I appreciate I probably shouldn't have then written "a crime has been committed", and apologise.

There is bound to be some disclosure about the Russian gold deal. If she justifies by reference to one or more of the various Banks' companies, then there will be disclosure there. 

 

I imagine emails about their Collins Cmte excursion also went too and fro. 

I don't have anything to hide, I'm just not going to waste time arguing the facts presented by Carole Cadwalladr in articles that you have not read. What would be the point?

What she uncovered is a serious piece of investigative journalism. Has our democracy been bought and manipulated, and if so, how and why and by whom? It's the most serious and pressing question for our generation that I can think of apart from how to reverse man made climate change, but hey, you'd rather sneer.

My last comment was for Lady Penelope's attention.

But then she'll probably ignore it, like when I pointed out we Remainers do call ourselves Remainiacs and like when Supes didn't acknowledge Carole Cadwalladr did cite "codswallop" as dog whistle misogyny.

I think 2 is pretty easy. The Bad Boys of Brexit says one meeting a lunch with the Russian Ambassador. Banks now admits there were more contacts than that which were not disclosed. Plus Banks said he lied to journalists to wind them up.

 

On 1, if those are the words at issue - why could they not refer to the gold deal which was true.

 

Both allegations have been repeated by other press sources and not on the allegedly etc basis - so someone somewhere will have legalled this. Similarly I would imagine the Guardian was waiting for this. Certainly CC seems to be trying to goad Banks to sue her on Twitter

Although I'm a Brexiteer and a massive Farage fanboy, I r8 Carole.

Proper old skool investigative journalist. Not like the gobsh1tes who write the 'Comment' pieces. 

I have read her articles. They are long and frankly terrifying. And to go through and cite from them I would have to go back and re-read them and copy and paste the most relevant parts, which would probably take me longer than it took to read them in the first place.

Why would I take the time to do that for someone who can't be bothered to read them in the first place?

You're right Cheesetoastie - no one seems to have said it in terms - ie Russian money to influence referendum - though a lot have implied that was the case whilst saying it all stinks to high heaven.

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