BoJos effortless superiority

I met Boris Johnson early in my first term at Oxford and we went on to share a house together. It was obvious even before he became President of the Union that he was the most talented person of my generation.

He was a scholar at Balliol, a college famous for what H H Asquith – one of several old boys who became prime minister – called “effortless superiority”, that annoying British ability to excel without apparently having put any work into it.

Boris embodies this to an extent he might call preternatural. I have always been proud to call this extravagantly gifted man my friend, so now I am going to defend him in public.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/07/01/friend-boris-johnson-has-faults-talented-person-generation/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

At that time Balliol was particularly famous for being a bit lefty.

a mate was also there then, I must ask him what he thoughht of Boris at the time.

The telegraph cannot sink any lower. How? It’s not possible 

Boris became President of the Union by pretending to be a Lib Dem lol.  Manipulative to get what he wanted by any means necessary before then even.

You know that effortless British superiority actually requires an enormous amount of work as they taught us the secret at school?  We'd all sit around during the times we were meant to be working trying to outdo each other for complete laid backness then after dark in our rooms we'd all start working furiously hoping nobody would notice.

Must have taken this chap some time to meet a representative cross-sample of his generation in order to come to this conclusion. What kind of a bellend writes stuff like that when there are plenty of British Nobel prize winners?

Perhaps BoJo threatened to have him beaten up unless he wrote this puff piece. 

 

 

That sounds fucked up sails

 

explains the hours corporate lawyers keep tho 

Johnson has many serious faults but he is quite clever and quite witty.   With luck, perseverance and a bit of hard work he might have risen to the position of a host on a TV comedy panel show.  

He is quite unfit for any other occupation and the idea of putting him in any position of responsibility is risible.  He is a liar, a fantasist, a lazy, incompetent cheat and above all a massive, massive egotist.  

As for “ brilliant” that adjective usually means a semi-educated conversational bully.  Fits Johnson well. 

Bananaman- Darius said his heavies couldn’t be there in time ;)

Which tv show could bojo host? Strictly come dancing? The apprentice? No

maybe top gear? Nah to toffish. 

So not even that 

He was decent on HIGNFY. Well it was funny the way they ambushed him at least.

The Telegraph really has gone down hill recently.

it’s been the weakest of the broadsheets for a while now, but poorly judged pieces like that do it no favours.

i suspect 3-ducks has taken the article with him to trap 3 in order to give him the sort of privacy and elbow room required to fully appreciate it. 

Is there anything in the Torygraph other than BJ puff pieces or propaganda for the PRC?

Boris isn't really that clever. He is a self-serving populist rabble rouser.

And he can come and have a debate with me about anything. Anytime. I'll film it.

@Chambers02 Jul 19 21:17

Don't be silly.  Johnson is pants at debating stuff and never does it.  

What he is really quite good at is deflecting any opportunity for debate with a well-turned phrase, a startling neologism and/or some good, old-fashioned bullying and snobbery.  

He’s a conversational con-man, using the vocabulary of the well-educated and serious to fuck things up so he can be top dog.  

 

 

 

Given that Chambo often spectacularly misses the point even when the words are written down on rof and he has time to consider a response, I would deffo pay to watch that debate.

Maybe a RoF debating panel with Boris. I might even lower the intellect standard and have you join it Goose.

 

Yes yes, you're amazing. I know. You tell us often enough.

Top dog in a Chinese dominated world. Not sure I'd fancy it m8s.

SummerSails 02 Jul 19 12:55

You know that effortless British superiority actually requires an enormous amount of work as they taught us the secret at school?  We'd all sit around during the times we were meant to be working trying to outdo each other for complete laid backness then after dark in our rooms we'd all start working furiously hoping nobody would notice.

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There's so many things wrong with this but the "British" that Sails snuck in there deserves a megaHEH. FFS. Yes, your politicians may be best in Latin or history but currently the only other effortless superiority they could lay claim to is on the shit-flinging gibbon front and even there they're currently beaten to the top spot by a certain orange gibbon from the US of A.

Tricky I'm not talking about politics but merely the ability to appear totally calm and unruffled in the face of near disaster whilst maintaining a sensible discussion about tactics at Waterloo and the differences between old and new world wines.  A vital ability given the current world chaos...

what summersails said.  albeit that people at balliol were notorious for actually working hard. not so effortless.

 

British officers don’t duck. It doesn’t work and it looks bad in front of the men.

Strutter, I do not believe the angle of your stance would alter the men's perception of you

Sails, clubbers and strutter defending 'British effortless superiority'. Heh. You guys need to step out of your bubble a bit. It's slightly embarrassing.

Well obviously wang, they would follow me to the ends of the earth - if only out of curiosity - but there’s no point in getting a crick in your neck whilst it happens.

Nonsense Tricky my 1930's bubble has served me beautifully this far in life although I have stopped wearing spats to work these days.  I will gladly stand on deck with a brandy listening to the band as the country sinks.

"Tricky I'm not talking about politics but merely the ability to appear totally calm and unruffled in the face of near disaster whilst maintaining a sensible discussion about tactics at Waterloo and the differences between old and new world wines.  A vital ability given the current world chaos..."

oh god its always reference to some distant glorious war with you lot isn't it, in which you would no doubt have acquitted yourself with immense dignity and courage and not shat yourself at the first boom of a canon 

fgs you're neither lovers nor fighters the lot of you 

Oh Hools I do love the fact that you never spot the tongue in the cheek.  I may add a TIC notation to posts for you.

To be honest though I've seen some pretty scary sh*t and pants remained spotless.

Bless you lindy, always spoiling for a scrap.

You do realise that we were gently taking the piss out of ourselves there?  

I mean you did get that, right, before getting out your big broad tarring brush that you would howl in indignation if it were used against ‘you lot’?

Yes yes you're just having clever larks and I'm too earnest and low brow to understand 

 

Would also query why me taking the piss out of you is "looking for a scrap" but you taking the piss amongst yourselves is just good fun

 can I suggest WhatsApp if you just want to chat with your mates

There are rather too many people on here who studied history, or classics, whatever that is, at university. One who did ecclesiastical studies from memory. Ok, fine.

Easier than engineering I guess.

Then they become lawyers.

P.S. fighting is terribly lower class so only ever get involved in it if there is no other option and the situation can't be defused with Wooster style quip.

As for loving I might just change my name to Casanova.

Chambo - genuine question. Is this an "amusing" persona you have created for rof or do you actually live at the far end of the autistic spectum? 

Hools the subtle difference is we are taking the piss out of ourselves rather than other people.  If you look at Rof you'll notice that lots of what I post is either self-deprecating or positively taking the piss out of myself rather than abusing others.

No offence dude but you are not the best person to try to explain either humour or social interaction to anyone 

The difference lindy my lovely is that you came steaming in with all sincerity spouting unfounded generalisations about how ‘you lot’ (whatever that may mean) would have shat ourselves - i.e. you were having a go at us - whereas we were having a go at ourselves with a total lack of sincerity.

One is aggressive and the other is humour. Can you tell which is which?

Curse my slow typing fingers, but I see that we are ad idem again sailo.

I think you're just not used to women on this site doing anything other than fawning over you tbh and interpret anything other than that as hostility 

Oh, so you were being humorous as well?

Maybe I was being too earnest and low brow to understand.

Let's be fair, boys. It's Rof's own "old boys" that took the bait. Nobody else. Again, it's slightly embarrassing. Part of humour passes me by obviously as a forriner, but it's the old boys that honestly still think this 'superiority' is a thing. A bit like the people still bleating on about ties at work and no brown in town.

Tricky the whole point is that it's not a superiority thing because we are taking the piss out of that old 1930's superiority attitude and don't honestly still think it remotely works.

Meeeh.... I'm not so sure I believe that Sails. See also that thing in the torygraph up there. There's plenty of people still believing in or placing any sort of value on this type of public school education and behaviour. And it's only in the UK.

I'm afraid its really me wibble. No fake persona, never has been. I say what I want to say. I probably have many weaknesses, but autism isn't one of them.

Not sure about you.

I wonder when these guys will stop flirting like this and fuck? 

 

I've had enough self satisfied Tory boys by now to know the answer to that is and should be "never"

There's a big difference between placing value on education and taking the piss out of old school stereotypes.  My school if anything taught humility rather than superiority unlike some of the others.

There are plenty of places outside the UK still putting a value on it which is why English kids are now the minority at some public schools.

Who says that Strutts and I haven't already enjoyed swift awkward coitus in a drafty dormitory...

to return to the original post, the main point is that Boris is an unpleasant, selfish and lazy egotist who should not be allowed within 1000 miles of any position of power and the article written by his mate is pathetic

What Heff said. 

Sadly the alternative is little better. 

 

also, not sure that a conveyancer and a corporate gimp who works in a pod should be talking about effortless superiority 

Very telling from linda that she despises men who aren’t fighters or lovers. It’s the Madonna/whore dichotomy of toxic femininity.

and lol at her attempt at self awareness. It ain’t cuz u lowbrow luv

Let me guess, is it because I'm thick by any chance? 

"Very telling from linda that she despises men who aren’t fighters or lovers. It’s the Madonna/whore dichotomy of toxic femininity."

do you have a my little pony avatar on twitter by any chance?

In this era of equality us boys are just as entitled to enjoy My Little Pony so you two are just maleponytoyphobic or something.

Absolute gem from Chambo in the middle of all of that.

Ignore Chambo - I think he only did civil engineering - the easiest of the engineerings.

 

Is civil engineering the one where your bumcrack has to remain hidden?

I’m terribly sorry, I didn’t realise that you want to build a bridge here too - after you.

No, please after you, I insist.