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3-ducks
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:06
Says who?
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:06
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She really is a lying toerag, isn't she?

Guess I'll be voting LibDem.
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:08
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She's basically using it as a proxy EUref2 by the sounds of it.
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:08
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BOOM!

Confirmed.
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:08
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Good on you Theresa!

Bigger balls then Bottler Brown!
Virgil Hilts
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:09
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How can she? Fixed term Parliament I thought?
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:10
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Labour will vote for it.
Loopy-Lou
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:10
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Sky News reporting it
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:10
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Can you imagine Corbyn trying to block it? He won't.
BREXIT!!
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:11
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OH HUZZAH!

HUZZAH! HUZZAH!

I'M GOING TO GET TO VOTE FOR A BREXIT WHICH MEANS BREXIT AGAIN!

HUZZAH!
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:12
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This is a brilliant speech.
Keef has political fatigue
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:12
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She's cashing Jezza in. Probably good timing - he's done as much damage as he's going to do.
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:13
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And one completely based in fantasy - particularly the suggestion that the electorate has come together on Brexit. Even you couldn't argue that was true Hanners.
Obadiah Hakeswill
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:14
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Excellent. A chance to vote against my disingenuous khunt of an MP. Not that it will stop him winning again, mind. But it will make me feel better.
The harbinger of sanity
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:15
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Interesting that she seems to think the 48% have suddenly become brexiteers....Huge swings to Lib Dems on the cards even with that fella nobody remembers in charge.
Jethro won it for Labour
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:15
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LET'S ALL VOTE LIB DEM.

We can stop this Brexit mutha happening now.
Keef has political fatigue
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:16
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Labour will get absolutely slaughtered. Squeezed between Brexiteers and Remainers.
cІubman
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:16
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Will we see exactly what labour's core vote is?
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:16
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Seriously, that was a corking speech from her there. She's got this one in the bag.
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:17
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UKIP can f*ck off and die now too. Literally no point in them once this is done.
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:17
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Failing to address the point. I see you're predicting her election strategy Hanners.
BREXIT!!
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:17
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I JUST HOPE THAT THE OPPOSITION DO THEIR DUTY AND GIVE HER THE TWO THIRDS MAJORITY SHE NEEDS TO OVERRIDE THE FIXED TERMS ACT!

AND THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY STRINGS ATTACHED... CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THE REMOANERS MADE IT CONDITIONAL ON THERE BEING A SECOND REFERENDUM ON WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE TERMS OF OUR GREAT BRITISH BREXIT?!?
Nexis
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:19
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It seems a bit risky to me. I voted Tory in the last election. I won't this time. Surely she's alienated a lot of Remain voters with her Hard Brexit Shyte.
old git roundabout
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:20
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Wow. This lady has balls.
200 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:22
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Jon Snow
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And one completely based in fantasy - particularly the suggestion that the electorate has come together on Brexit.

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Can't remember the last time a mid-term government was enjoying 46% opinion poll ratings.
Siegfreid
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:23
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This lady has seen what's coming down the tracks; best off to get a full term before the electorate realizes the good times are over.
cІubman
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:24
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She looks to be re-running "who runs Britain?" To which of choruses the answer was "not you"

"Theresa MayBBC
The PM says the country is coming together, but Westminster remains divided.

"In recent weeks Labour have threatened to vote against the final agreement we reach with the European Union.

"The Liberal Democrats said they want to grind the business of government to a standstill.

"The Scottish National Party say they will vote against the legislation that formally repeals Britain's membership of the European Union.

"And un-elected members of the House of Lords have vowed to fight us every step of the way.

"If we do not hold a general election now, their political game playing will continue.""
Jethro won it for Labour
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:25
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It will be the biggest act of political suicide in history.

AND WE WILL GLORIOUSLY REMAIN IN THE EU.
The harbinger of sanity
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:26
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Brave move, I think she is underestimating the inevitable Lib Dem surge in southern England which may put a spanner in her plans for a red white and blue brexit.
Perfidious Porpoise
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:27
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My first vote as a UK citizen!!! So excited.

Hillary Clinton 2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!! \ /
Saracens1876
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:27
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It could backfire on her if former Tory voters on the left are prepared to vote essentially for the SNP by default in Parliament and hope that Corbyn is somehow removed or ousted although this seems unlikely at the moment.

Labour will be heavily defeated in those seats and areas with a large Jewish population. Perhaps this will be the wake - up call Labour needs on a very damaging period in its history.

Clergs (!)
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:27
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PP

stop jinxing it
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:28
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That Art 50 notice is irrevocable, m7s. No re-run of the referendum is available.

A Tory landslide would send a strong message to Johnny Foreigner that the UK won't be pushed around in the negotiations.
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:29
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46% =/= 100% Hanners. Hopey helpy.
hoolie is voting lib dem
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:29
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As my Tory mp is a personal friend of my ex h I look forward to voting lib dem and him losing his seat
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:30
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sporting_zucchini
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:28
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That Art 50 notice is irrevocable, m7s.

What's your authority for that?
Siegfreid
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:30
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What it will tell Johnny Foreigner is that he shouldn't waste his time with negotiations, bye-bye UK, tell us when you're ready to rejoin.
Jethro won it for Labour
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:32
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Of course it is revocable if the EU agree to it. They want the UK to remain. It ain't over until the fat lady sings.
strongly unstable
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:32
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My constituency is strongly Tory but was also fairly strongly remain. Interesting times ahead.
Saillaw
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:37
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Am I the only one thinking thank god that's only three and a bit of months of ignoring the doorbell and avoiding canvassers as opposed to the usual six?
Legal Alien
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:38
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Can't wait for the annihilation of the Labour party. Lib dems will prob storm back to 30+ seats on the back of a Pro-Europe ticket.
Saracens1876
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:38
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jury is out on whether Article 50 is irrevocable.
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:39
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@ Jon Snow - Art 50 itself. Good luck running the revocability argument. Brexit will be done and dusted long before you get a judgment that says otherwise.

Art 49 is also what you should be looking at. Terms for UK re-accession would be interesting.

Don't hold your breath Siggers. There may not be an EU to rejoin, or it might be a very different one.


The harbinger of sanity
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:39
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jury is out on whether Article 50 is irrevocable.

This is such a tunnel visioned lawyer's view. The EU wants us to stay, if we do to then we stay - who gives a fvck about the wording? it is a political question not a legal one
Saracens1876
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:39
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7 weeks sailaw not three months
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:41
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Sorry, I must be having some trouble with my English comprehension Zucchini, as did the Supreme Court - where in Art.49 or 50 does it actually say its irrevocable?
cІubman
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:42
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What will George Osborne do?
Keef has political fatigue
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:43
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It is revocable. We've already done this.
Wellington
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:43
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I was actually with Jezza when this was announced. Was able to capture his reaction on my phone:

Jethro won it for Labour
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:45
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Labour will vote for the GE.

This is happening.
Abbeywell/NSA
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:46
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39630209


Will TMPM get the result she wants?
Wellington
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:46
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Corbyn obviously sees this as his chance of ridding himself of that pesky PLP.

Saracens1876
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:47
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The EU has presently indicated that Article 50 can be revoked so long as it is 'subject to conditions set by all EU 27'
strongly unstable
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:48
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Could the other parties block a general election on 8th June on the grounds that the Tories have had months to secretly prepare for this, but we'll have one later thank you very much?
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:48
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Acksherly @ Jon Snow my view is that it is irrevocable because there is no provision in Art 50 to provide a mechanism for withdrawing the notice. If there was, either you would not need Art 49 or you would have a somewhat different Art 49. You should read them together.

I can understand why the remainers would argue that revocability is implied somehow, but that's wishful thinking. You would have to amend the Treaty of Lisbon itself to achieve that intention, and there isn't enough time between now and 29 March 2019 for that process to be carried out.
Jon Snow
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:50
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Ah, so your authority is you. Gotcha.
Deltus
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:52
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Heh, if it's revocable only on the agreement of the other 27 states, then they'll all take the piss.

"Oh, changed your mind? Nevermind, come right back in! Except we'll take Gibraltar off your hands. And you have to join the Euro. And in fact, that budget rebate that you'd negotiated, forget about that."
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:57
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Yes, I am a lawya. I do this stuff for a living. You are free to disagree. As lawyas often do, and as we know even appellate judges disagree with each other and certainty is an aspiration.

Whether Art 50 notices are revocable is pretty much obiter anyway.
The harbinger of sanity
Posted - 18 April 2017 11:59
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"Could the other parties block a general election on 8th June on the grounds that the Tories have had months to secretly prepare for this, but we'll have one later thank you very much?"

In fairness they cannot have done too much simply because the circle of people in the know must have been absolutely tiny for it not to have leaked.
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:06
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Hopefully that twat Mhairi Black will lose her seat and fvck off back to uni.
Saracens1876
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:07
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'go back to your seats..and prepare for Government.'
Saracens1876
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:08
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Yes, no doubt the EU 27 would extract concessions from the UK.
'you have been a very naughty boy..'
freek daze
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:19
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I'm not that boshed tbh although it'll be interesting to see if the Lib Dems get any mileage in urban areas out of anti-Brexit feeling.

I am pretty relaxed about Brexit now that we're going to get opt-in associate citizenship
Jethro won it for Labour
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:21
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Eh?
3-ducks
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:22
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Huh??
strongly unstable
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:22
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@ Laz:

strongly unstable
Posted - 18 April 2017 12:23
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(For "she", read "he" and for "go", read "live".)
MakkaPakka
Posted - 20 April 2017 07:49
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Hmm. Calling an election is cunning. Lynton Crosby must have worked out that there will be a lot of negative news coming up on the jobs front when firms adjust to an environment where it is harder to trade. The first past the post system means that it only needs 35% or so of the electoral vote to dominate parliament. All May needs to do is fortify her core vote and the Daily (the rag that must not be named) is geared up for the task. Already those who oppose her must be 'crushed'.