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Incakenito
Posted - 12 April 2017 07:52
He had already boarded so denying boarding after the event has happened is one thing. I expect the lawyer is right that they can take whatever steps necessary to ensure the safety of the flight but...wtf?! Dragging him off with blood pouring from him. Jesus.
Incakenito
Posted - 12 April 2017 07:52
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He had already boarded so denying boarding after the event has happened is one thing. I expect the lawyer is right that they can take whatever steps necessary to ensure the safety of the flight but...wtf?! Dragging him off with blood pouring from him. Jesus.
Clergs is voting lib dem
Posted - 12 April 2017 07:53
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I know right

We've all been on flights where they need to free space but they do it at the gate!

I have never been offered$800
Clergs is voting lib dem
Posted - 12 April 2017 07:54
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And it was because they needed seats for staff to go to another flight, wasn't it? Which doesn't sound like a safety issue
Incakenito
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:02
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Oh was it?

My aunt always gets bumped up - her whole family turns up at the airport and asks to be in line for getting bumped up and paid to leave the flight and get on the next. They are really strange and american.

They should have kept upping the money and then someone would say yes. This poor guy had to get back for work!
Wellington
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:07
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I was flying from City to Malaga last year and was offered £500 and a business class flight later in the day to fly from Heathrow instead. This was at the gate and after the check in. Something to do with reduced runways not being able to take a full plane load of people.

Told them to fvck off mind. I had a tee time booked for later that day.
Clergs is voting lib dem
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:10
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Would they have transferred u?
Wellington
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:10
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wait a second.

The guy dragged off has had ghey sex!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4401980/Dr-dragged-United-swapped-drugs-sec ret-gay-sex.html

This completely vindicates United's actions imho.
Lydia
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:12
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In the UK that money is offered before you board and they don't let people on if there is not space. Usually it's done at the gate and you get standby people ( passengers without tickets) waiting at the gate until the last minute hoping someone will not show up and they will be let on. They are then given a boarding pass at that point. I didn't think airlines let anyone on without a boarding pass and that once you were through there and on the plane they could take you off although I am sure the rights to remove someone who is drunk etc remain and you probably just about say that telling people they must leave the plane and they refuse breaches some kind of rule just like we can usually manufacture breach of the peace in the UK just because one by stander doesn't happen to like your T shirt slogan.

Here the airline suddenly needed 4 of its staff to go to a particular city on that flight so they wanted to turf off people already on. They behaved dreadfully and as it's the US hopefully they will pay him a lot of compensation.
Bert Weedon
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:15
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Seeing what they could dig up on this guy after the fact, or being complicit in the press doing so, so as to somehow try to mitigate their actions and rescue their toxic brand is fvcking disgusting and should be deplored by any sentient being.
Dogwarden 2016
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:31
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I was travelling to Hong Kong once with a friend. They bumped us for £400 cash. The replacement plane took off 20 MINUTES later and arrived 15 minutes early..

It was a good start to a holiday!

I got bumped off a sleazy jet flight from Belfast. I got to miss a really boring course the next day. Stay in a lovely hotel and chillax (it was a 10pm flight anyway). I got £250 cash. The flight was back was delayed from 6am to 9am.... but they told us at the hotel, so I got £250 compensation as well. Everyone at work was doing the "nightmare" thing (may not have mentioned the cash ) but it was a lovely chilled night and back home by 1pm the next day.

I love sleazyjet. I find them really nice compared to Ryanscare.
left-arm wheels
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:32
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heh, clydes probably pitching for a UA retainer, if they don't have one already
Osama
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:35
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backpackers usually queue to be bumped
Clergs is voting lib dem
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:36
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Where is the queue??
Osama
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:40
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left-arm wheels
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:40
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bollocks osama

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Clergs is voting lib dem
Posted - 12 April 2017 08:43
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Ryanair is currently much better for not being a dick about cabin baggage

Bert Weedon
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:07
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oh they're smearing the wrong guy - even better

https://twitter.com/_ClaireConnelly/status/852036052286033921
cІubman
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:08
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as botti said yesterday whilst they may technically have been in the right, beating the crap out of a customer so you can move four staff around the country doesn't really count as over booking.

as an aside there is a journalist who's pointing out that the whilst the first and last names of the "bad" doctor and the "beaten the crap out of" doctor are the same, the middle names are completely different . journalists/PR don't appear to have checked properly , because, hey, he's an asian, how many guys with names like that can they're be, right?
cІubman
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:08
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cІubman
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:09
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left-arm wheels
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:11
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do we know it is a UA sanctioned smearing? the daily mail hardly needs any encouragement...i can't bring myself to click on their article
Bert Weedon
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:12
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m8 we've synced

call the cops
Saracens1876
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:14
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cannot be bothered reading law on this occasion but going with lydia's assessment. smells like a big one with a seven figure sum being handed over if only to save the day and reputation..liabilty, if relevant, becomes secondary to protecting brand
Cofferdam
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:18
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I think wellers has it.
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:48
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At what point is a passenger "boarded" for this purpose?

Common sense would say that if you have been seated by cabin staff and the number of the seat you are in matches your boarding pass that should be Job Done.

Let's see how United's lawyers try to argue the contrary.

Their clients would be mad not to settle the inevitably punitive damages claim well before trial.
C0C0P0P
Posted - 12 April 2017 12:50
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United claim that he was involuntarily denied boarding, and point to the relevant part of the conditions of carriage (Rule 25). This is not correct, as he had already boarded - IDB occurs at or before the gate.

They also claim a right to refuse transport (Rule 21), which allows UA to remove anyone from the flight who meets one of some two dozen criteria. As any fool know, as a matter of construction, listing certain criteria should be read to exclude criteria that are not listed. Removal due to overbooking / to accommodate staff is not listed, and is therefore not a permitted reason to remove a passenger.

Arguable that he was failing to follow the instructions of the crew as a justification for removal. However, if the crew's instruction was not lawful and they had no legal right to insist he leaves the aircraft, he would be under no obligation to comply.

IMHO, UA's only chance is to argue that the Captain's ultimate prerogative as to who rides on his plane is the only legal route to justify this chap's removal (albeit not the means)
C0C0P0P
Posted - 12 April 2017 12:57
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Also, I don't think there can be any doubt that this chap had 'boarded' so that Rule 25 can't apply. All plain language and contra proferentem rules suggest this