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Herbies mental health initiative
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intheregions
Posted - 10 March 2017 09:54
fair play to 'em. Only way for more people to open up and get help is to see that they won't be pilloried by those above them
Judy_Carter
Posted - 10 March 2017 09:59
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I think that it's brilliant of Herbies. So many other places she would have been tossed out.
old git roundabout
Posted - 10 March 2017 10:32
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very brave of the lady in question, hats off to her.
Used Psychology
Posted - 10 March 2017 10:38
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It's a great initiative, but I would have assumed a 100% signup rate at Herbert Smith, where they all display some form of dysfunction.
🐝 buzz
Posted - 10 March 2017 11:07
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I'd assumed this is training to up the general level of psychopathy and general aggressiveness to new heights.
Used Psychology
Posted - 10 March 2017 11:14
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*Notices new performance review question:*

Is angry enough to progress in firm: Y/N
Is sufficiently psychotic to meet partnership expectations: Y/N
igby
Posted - 11 March 2017 11:06
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It's very commendable of them, and takes guts to go public.
However, I can't help thinking that if partners with their power, prestige and wealth are struggling, what hope is there for their underlings who have little control over their working lives, are expected to meet ludicrous billing targets and do business development hours on top, and live in fear of their next appraisal.
boombastic
Posted - 11 March 2017 16:49
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All power to them and at least it's something, but do you see them doing anything to actually change the environment that makes law possibly the most stressful profession to be in? I have a family member working there in disputes, 80-90 hour weeks are common, lots of oddballs to deal with and a generally shite sounding working environment (not that its different to any other City firm).

At this risk of being harsh, I feel that these kinds of initiatives are window-dressing if the actual culture that contributes to lawyers' depression isn't changed. Meaningful changes might mean a reduction in PEP dolla though so fat chance of that happening....
boombastic
Posted - 11 March 2017 16:49
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In short, what igby said
Didgeridon't
Posted - 11 March 2017 16:55
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Wot igby said.

The oddballs who survive it and then fight up the partnership ladder just want the reward for their effort. Those too weak to follow are to be lost along the way...
Didgeridon't
Posted - 11 March 2017 16:57
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Also very smart of her to make this a big media thing. Makes it very hard for herbies to follow the usual plan and quietly bin her in a partnership reshuffle when the opportunity comes up.

Ps. Love that spellcheck changed herbies to gerbils...
Osama
Posted - 11 March 2017 16:58
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dealing with herbies was one of the worst and most pointless few weeks of my life
Didgeridon't
Posted - 11 March 2017 17:01
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A friend trained there. She has literally nothing positive to say about it and sees the rest of her life since as repair work to the damage of those years.
Lord Judge
Posted - 11 March 2017 18:35
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DD - what was so bad? Did your friend ever say?

(or anyone else ripping them)
Didgeridon't
Posted - 11 March 2017 19:19
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A combination of long hours and unpleasant partners and general urgh.
Want a balloon?
Posted - 11 March 2017 23:33
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Fvck all this. I tell juniors pain is weakness leaving the body. One of my little sayings, that is.
Massive fuckwit
Posted - 12 March 2017 00:03
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That's the Herbie's Menials Health Initiative. The one the 99% get.
Abbeywell/NSA
Posted - 13 March 2017 18:32
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Job for life now?, even if she starts licking the windows in reception at a later date
Chambers
Posted - 13 March 2017 19:28
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I think most firms do similar now don't they? Preferable to having partners and lawyers throwing themselves under tube trains.