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Martian Law
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:48
I'm surprised nobody has penetrated him in prison with their Johnson. Still time I suppose.
Lydia
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:01
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He's not very bright.

He should never have met her in the first place. Men do need to check age much better than some of them do.
Battleship Pomegranate
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:03
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I thought you were quite liberal on the age thing Lydia?
Father CYPmas
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:06
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HE LOOKS A BIT LIKE GEORGE OSBORNE TO ME.
Father CYPmas
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:08
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Martian Law
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:09
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"I think anybody in that situation is going to engage in a bit of lad-like banter so as to ingratiate oneself with fellow prisoners and not get beaten to a pulp. Prison is all about surviving."

Except that nonces have a special place reserved for them in prison. It's called segregation.
Keef_
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:10
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He's guilty of been a bit thick more than anything. I'm not sure he actually appreciates that wanting to have had the benefit of the crime as well as the punishment isn't, in this instance, a particularly ingratiating thing to say.
Keef_
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:11
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being*
Queenie E
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:15
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What Jethro said

He's still a dick though.
old git roundabout
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:22
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I agree with Jethers on this one, although his punishment seemed slightly harsh to me.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:27
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Whilst he is quite clearly a despicable oaf, his views on this are not entirely non-u. One has heard, for example, persons suggesting that the Kardashian Paris break-in was a missed opportunity.
Zimmerwald Man
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:40
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he's a fvcking bell end and wasted his considerable talent

that rare thing, a genuine old skool winger in the modern era, he could have been an English Gareth Bale

HE does look like George Osborne, too. Crossed with Ian Curtis
Zimmerwald Man
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:42
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ps he wont be segregated dont be daft
Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:53
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He's a ladypart .
Budgie Quay
Posted - 21 April 2017 22:59
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I feel sorry for him.

6 years for consensual fingering/blow job with a girl who's only just under the age of consent and clearly willing is frankly insane compared to other sentences that one hears about.

Also Lets not forget that David Bowie was widely known to have had sex with a 13 year old groupie and around about the time Johnson was being sent down the world was full wildly over the top tributes for Bowie. It was a telling lesson in how farcically unjust the world can be.
Hal Incandenza
Posted - 22 April 2017 09:10
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Heh @ the English Gareth Bale.

Just look at the difference in them physically for a start. Johnson had a decent left foot but not much more.

More like a Mackem Stewart Downing than an English Bale.
Jon Snow
Posted - 22 April 2017 10:03
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Or a lesson in how ignorant the world can be BQ. Just because a lot of people were unaware of what reportedly happened with Bowie 40 years ago doesn't mean that modern day paedos should get away with it.

And it wasn't consensual, because she couldn't consent.
Ash89
Posted - 22 April 2017 10:12
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Six years for kissing and grooming? Jesus, you could kill someone and get less time.
Jon Snow
Posted - 22 April 2017 11:42
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Eh Serg? The age of consent is 16. If you're under the age of consent, you can't consent.
Jon Snow
Posted - 22 April 2017 11:43
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Ash, let's not lose sight of the fact he's just been saying he wished he'd raped her. Zero sympathy.
Tom Linorder
Posted - 22 April 2017 12:47
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The English Gareth bale.

LOL.

Just LOL.

Also, what Budgie Quay said about double standards.
Osama
Posted - 22 April 2017 13:16
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i don't know why Laz says this stuff....
Ash89
Posted - 22 April 2017 13:18
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I don't have sympathy for him, and I don't think his term should be decreased. I just think that other sentencing is off-kilter.
Zimmerwald Man
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:12
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Bale was also weedy at one stage, his physique is the product of training and science, not nature.

Johnson at his best was an absolutely devastating footballer. Unquestionably, there's a world class winger inside the teen-bothering sex-douche
Hal Incandenza
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:32
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Hilarious.

He was a player with fairly good technique and dribbling skills, who could strike a decent dead ball. He never had the pace or physicality to be a world-class winger. And never scored enough goals.
Osama
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:35
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All those top managers who couldn't see what laz the top footie blogger could
Zimmerwald Man
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:42
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Johnson had explosive pace you idiot

Top football managers signed Johnson. Who gives a fukk however - football managers know jack sh1t
Osama
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:43
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heh
Cofferdam
Posted - 22 April 2017 17:28
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I have no idea what Cyp is alluding to.
Jon Snow
Posted - 22 April 2017 20:01
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Yeah, fvck the law, eh CEO? What's 3 months? She was nearly technically fair game. It's so unfair the system actually applied the law to him. And never mind the rape comments, I'm sure he was a completely upfront lad that just got misunderstood by everyone.
Tom Linorder
Posted - 22 April 2017 21:09
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'Top football managers signed Johnson'

Mancini and Martin O'Neill?

Tbf calling him a 'absolutely devastating footballer' make me think you're either a) trolling or b) clueless.
Wellington
Posted - 22 April 2017 22:45
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Shyte player but annoyingly good in the derby.

Sunderland should have been docked 40 points for continuing to play him despite knowing he was guilty.
Budgie Quay
Posted - 23 April 2017 01:03
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Dare i say it but Jon Snow ... you know nothing.

Yes of course in a technnical legal sense she couldnt consent. But in the real world she was a willing participant (see how clever I am avoiding the consent word?) ... and to equate what he did with rape or child abuse is frankly stupid, wrong and a gross injustice to people who have genuinely been raped or abused against their will.

Of course the media have cleverly/moronically/stupidly/wickedly/righteously jumped on the very clever legal point that this is technically, legally equivalent to rape... but anyone with a brain who knows anything about the real world knows - however unpleasant it may be - that it is nothing like rape in any sort of moral terms.

Which just shows that - as any lawyer or intelligent observer of our society should know - law and moral justice are very different things.

I could point to thousands of far worse crimes (including probably real rapes/attempted rapes/ manslaughters etc) - that are far worse in moral culpability and far worse in catastrophic effect on victims - that have received much lower sentences.

I really do worry that there are so many people who cannot see this. Social media is really fvcking up peoples moral radar.

And what i said about Bowie x 1000. Any of you cheerleaders for locking up 'rapists' like Johnson - I very much assume you are not part of the same category of people who think Bowie is great. But i really do fear that some, perhaps now even most, people are so stupid as to not recognise the problem.
Budgie Quay
Posted - 23 April 2017 01:04
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Ps - he was a kittens player.
Zimmerwald Man
Posted - 23 April 2017 06:52
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What the average rider knows about football:


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Tom Linorder
Posted - 23 April 2017 12:32
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List of posters on this thread who haven't pwned the OP:


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Misshoolie
Posted - 23 April 2017 12:46
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Pardon what? I just posted a link you moron
Tom Linorder
Posted - 23 April 2017 14:54
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Oops sorry, a mistake. Which I would have thought was pretty obvious given the context of my post.

Way to overreact though.

Moron.



Jon Snow
Posted - 23 April 2017 16:49
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She's a fvcking child still BQ. He broke the law. End of.

The fact that other people don't pillory Bowie orm like Duxie, thought people were being too harsh on Jimmy Saville is neither here nor there.
Jon Snow
Posted - 23 April 2017 16:51
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And the fact that he is now saying he wished he raped her says everything you need to know about whether he deserves what he got. You can justify it any way you want by talking about how willing she was (cringemax) or how she was just shy of the age of consent or because other people like paedos, but you are still arguing that its OK to fvck around with children.
Budgie Quay
Posted - 23 April 2017 17:31
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These discussions are pointless. I didn't say he didn't break the law or that what he did wasn't wrong.

Just that it's a mistake to equate this sort of offence with rape and that 6 yrs is totally disproportionate compared to many other sentences.
Budgie Quay
Posted - 23 April 2017 17:36
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"You are still arguing that it's Ok to **** around with children".

FFS - of course I'm not.

Jesus it's like trying to have an intelligent conversation with a daily mail headline.
TheBoltonMare
Posted - 23 April 2017 17:58
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Heh at RoF again taking things entirely out of context.

On the "I wish I had raped her" statement, he was alluding to the fact that he got the same sentence for what he did as he would have done had he raped her. He was was replying to statement made to him along the lines of "look what you got (sentence) and you didn't even rape her". He responded along the lines of "I know, for that I wish I had raped her".

His view was obviously he gat the time but didn't commit the (corresponding) crime. FAOD - he was still a dick for what he did do with her and deserved a conviction and sentence.