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advice please re career move
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Posted - 20 April 2017 17:12
Here's the gig, 5 yr PQE of which latter 3 in-house for a manufacturing company.

Old boss was Company Solicitor but they let him go before realising after nearly 18 months of anarchy that they could really do with another.

Long standing (since 90's) CoSec has (not by choice) departed the business. He was my barrier to the Company Solicitor role as he was oft fond of repeating to me "I'm head of legal".

He's gone and I've been offered CoSec duties (but not the title) as part of a wider Company Solicitor remit. I've not been offered GC role, so no conflict in that sense, but is this a good move or career suicide?

Grateful for any sensible advice!
Posted - 20 April 2017 17:21
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If you sit on your hands don't you risk the company bringing in a new Company Solicitor / GC?

Could be a chance to take on the company secretarial work, bring it into your remit and create the more official Company Solicitor position.
Posted - 20 April 2017 17:23
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take the role, make it your own
Posted - 20 April 2017 17:24
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Thanks CS, I'm not one for wasting an opportunity, just being a bit cautious I guess.

I'm hoping there might be some other Roffers who are doing a CoSec/CS role and how they found it.

Posted - 20 April 2017 17:25
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May have missed the point about there being a conflict between Company Secretary role and General Counsel?
Keef is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 20 April 2017 17:29
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This is a UK listed co?
Posted - 20 April 2017 17:30
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Nope, Ltd Company.

Duty to the Chairman vs Duty to the Chief Exec. All new territory for me. I can read about it all I like, but my mentor remains in private practice and so can't really help.

Posted - 20 April 2017 17:32
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^^^ That's me missing the point re a conflict BTW.

Course you know the personalities and how things work. However, in general I think its better to set out a proposal of how you see the role working. Layout why more focus is needed on the legal team (re the last 18 months). Perhaps throw in if you get a wider remit you can cut costs on external instructions and even better start building your own team.

Then WFH Friday.
Roscoe P. Coltrane
Posted - 22 April 2017 14:33
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Propose that they give you the GC role with responsibility for supervising a more junior lawyer who will actually undertake the CoSec duties?
Posted - 22 April 2017 14:39
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WTF is a Company Solicitor?
Posted - 22 April 2017 15:20
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I can't promise that it is "sensible", but here goes:

You have an opportunity in front of you which, reasonably, you are evaluating.

You don't say anything about your longer term career plans but it seems like your short-term goal is to be head of legal where you are.

The role you've been offered is not really a legal role, to my mind, but an administrative / corporate governance one. Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all, if that's what you want to do.

Before jumping in to this, have a think: do you have a longer-term career plan? If so, does the role being offered here fit in to that plan? Does it give you skills or experience that you would need to advance your career plan? If so, great — show your interest, and work out what support you'd need to break into a new area.

If it doesn't really get you to where you want to be, think about whether this is the role for you, or whether you'd be better off looking elsewhere, now that you've got three years of experience under your belt at your current place.

If you really don't have a plan, and this sounds interesting, and would add some strings to your bow, and wouldn't cut you out of other opportunities in the future, and you enjoy where you currently are, great!

Posted - 22 April 2017 15:33
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They sound like a bunch of khunts who don't appreciate their legal team. I'd get out full stop m2.
Posted - 22 April 2017 15:36
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co sec is a piece of piss

do you have other options?
whats your mentor got to do with it?