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World Snooker Championship Controversy Rory
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felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 08:32
Macleod who beat Judd Trump " refuses" to shake the female referees hand at conclusion of the match. Jesus christ he is a practicing muslim , and males dont shake females hands.

Matters made worse in the post match interview, the pompous and grandstanding Hazel Irving,makes a deliberate point of standing up and thrusting her hand in to Rory's hand giving him no option but to shake it, cue awkward look by John Parrott, made for agonising viewing. What a bitch she was agreed?

Oh and social media going in to meltdown that his logo sponsor is ISIS the terrorist group. FFS , it is a business support services company, who have sponsored him for 16 years, and it is 1sis, derr!
old git roundabout
Posted - 20 April 2017 09:02
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'nice to see a Muslim beating Trump' is another line you might take on this
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 09:10
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Hero do u agree with what she did? Scottish parochial moron she is , FYI my father is Scottish
daddycam
Posted - 20 April 2017 09:28
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as opposed to all the frotting by the rightwing because he is a muslim.

TBH, I'd chuck him out. At very least its crass discourtesy, why couldn't he have mentioned this

I haven't seen it, but I think Hazel Irving did what sounds to be exactly the right thing to do.
rogermellie
Posted - 20 April 2017 09:41
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Pure and simple sexual discrimination
He sounds like a tool and his sky fairy must be a gigantic bell end
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 09:55
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Good on Hazel Irving.

Clare Balding would have crumbled, like she did when refusing to go to Muirfield because they didn't let in lady members at the time, but was happy to go to the Russian Olympics despite their anti-lesbian politics.
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 09:56
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Here is the hero:

242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:00
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Hang on! He won't shake a bird's hand because...RELIGION, but is sponsored by a betting company?

Sheeeesh...
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:20
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249 he is not sponsored by a betting company, the tournament is and all players are contractually obliged to wear the logo or they can't play. It is fucking disrespectful by Irving , one should accept people's lawful religious beliefs and customs provided they are lawful.
The shoot out championship the players walk on with models arm in arm he refused that and walked side by side instead . Whoever said he is sexist is mad u will see in his interview he called his wife the boss.
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:22
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Like the unsexist Rumpole used to call his wife "She Who Must Be Obeyed"?
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:25
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p.s felix1000, other sportsmen demand the right to cover up:

"Sonny Bill Williams will be allowed to continue covering up a sponsor’s logo on his Auckland Blues shirt after the New Zealand Rugby Union agreed to the All Blacks player’s request based on his religious beliefs.

"Williams, a devout Muslim, last week taped up his collar to hide Bank of New Zealand logos as Islamic faith forbids financial institutions charging interest and fees on loans...

"...“I want to be clear that this is nothing personal against the BNZ or Investec,” Williams said. “My objection to wearing clothing that markets banks, alcohol and gambling companies is central to my religious beliefs, and it is important to me to have been granted this exemption.

“As I learn more, and develop a deeper understanding of my faith, I am no longer comfortable doing things I used to do.

“So while a logo on a jersey might seem like a small thing to some people, it is important to me that I do the right thing with regards to my faith and hope that people respect that.

“I want to thank the Blues and New Zealand Rugby for working with me through this matter over the last couple of days, and respecting my religion and accommodating my request.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/12/sonny-bill-williams-kit-alcohol-gam bling-logos
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:28
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Indeed 249 but it is dependent on the terms of the sponsorship agreement, without being outy I know the world snooker association and the sponsors wouldn't permit it, it was specifically in the terms .
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:29
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Would not.
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:29
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So he'll compromise his religious beliefs for sponsorship, but not out of courtesy for a lady referee?
Whiskers is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:35
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what daddycam said.

Twinkle twinkle little wang
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:42
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I find myself agreeing with Hanners. That can't be a good thing can it? Is it ok if cam agrees he's a sensible chap. Maybe it's the stopped clock thing...
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:45
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What a khunt. Simpel as that really. Discourteous and no class.

Will he forfeit if has to play an Israeli??
Wellington
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:48
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I guess you could say that he jihad a problem with the female ref (umpire?)

Did he clear allah the balls when making his highest break?
Nexis is turning yellow
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:51
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What a rude ladypart. Good on Hazel Irving for making a point.
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:51
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249 it is not his sponsor, see what I said above,besides it's his job and it is the only way he can feed his family .he can't do anything else . I watch hundreds of hours of snooker every season and he never shakes Hands with female referees, the governing body allow and respect that hence he doesn't get fined. Would you ask a Jew to have a pork pie ?
Bert Weedon
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:52
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good on hazel irvine
daddycam
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:57
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"249 it is not his sponsor, see what I said above,besides it's his job and it is the only way he can feed his family .he can't do anything else"

bollocks.
I'm sure there are vacancies at his local lidl.

More importantly, shaking hands with the ref is also part of the sport as much as the sponsor is.
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 10:58
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Gosh you people. she NEVER shakes a players hand post match interview, interesting thing is the referee knew and was told by the WSA
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:00
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Ronnie often blanks the hand shake of a referee what's his excuse?
Nexis is turning yellow
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:00
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Yes, that's absolutely fascinating.

It doesn't make him anything other than a rude ladypart though.
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:01
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TBH - she's probably safer not shaking his hand anyway. Probably his arse wiping hand.
Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:03
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I agree with what Hazel Irving supposedly did - good for her - blatant sexism that shouldn't be tolerated

If that story is true she also dealt with it in the right way - get up and shove your hand out for him to look really bad if he ignores it, good for her
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:06
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Interesting thing is hendry, ebdon, Taylor , Ronnie and ALL the refs have said at various times he is the nicest most polite bloke u could wish to meet.
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:16
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Of course they were! Ebdon his his practice partner.
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Posted - 20 April 2017 11:16
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"Would you ask a Jew to have a pork pie ?"

She expects him to shake her hand, not eat her
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:18
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felix1000
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249 it is not his sponsor, see what I said above,besides it's his job and it is the only way he can feed his family .he can't do anything else .

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See Sonny Bill Williams extract above. The bank isn't his sponsor either. He still covered it up.
Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:19
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Felix it is not lawful to sexually discriminate against women you f u c k I n g moron
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:26
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He hasn't sexually discriminated against anyone
242 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:27
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So he doesn't shake male referees hands too? It's just referees who are the issue?

Our mistake. Carry on.
Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:27
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Yes he has
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:30
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What law?
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:30
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How is what he did unlawful?
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Posted - 20 April 2017 11:34
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He thinks the religiously inspired attitude that men are superior to women should be respected
Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:36
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The equality act

Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 11:41
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How does it feel to lose an argument felix?
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 20 April 2017 13:00
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How is not shaking someone's hand contrary to the Equality Act?
Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 13:20
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It's contrary to the Equalities act because it is not treating women equally with men
felix1000
Posted - 20 April 2017 14:51
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what section?
old git roundabout
Posted - 20 April 2017 15:12
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did he think Hazel had the painters in?
Weally Been
Posted - 20 April 2017 15:21
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Harassment under the act

I'm not going give you a section, not least as I'm finding your persistence defending the indefensible as really quite poor
Laz will be Lib Dem leader
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:36
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Sorry felix, as the second greatest lover of the game on here I'd have to disagree on this one. McLeod is playing a sport, and if you play a sport you are bound by its conventions. Religion isn't a get-out. Your God is not at the table with you.
Laz will be Lib Dem leader
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:37
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That said, I'm quite impressed with Weally's random making up of jurisprudence here. The Equalities Act has absolutely fukk all to say about shaking hands with people, m8, as well you know.
felix1000
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:57
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Laz, religious beliefs and conventions are sacrosanct if they are lawful, snooker has no "rule" requring shaking hands, it is just good form, save for in these circs.

Your 2nd post is bang on.

Weally what section u must know......
Laz will be Lib Dem leader
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:14
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I didn't describe it as a rule m88 I described it as a convention. When playing a sport, a firmly terrestrial activity, morally you are bound by its terrestrial and secular conventions. It's not a law. I'm not arguing that he should be punished. But he did breach a convention and I'm afraid there is no moral get-out for religion.
felix1000
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:19
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Weally you are clearly not a lawyer are you............

Laz you might be correct, however the governing body are fine with it and understanding
Laz will be Lib Dem leader
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:33
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All the governing body have said is that it's not against the rules. Clearly it's not.
Third Half
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:07
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Surely if he objects so strongly to the presence of a female referee, he should simply refuse to play in matches where the referee is female.

Perhaps as Saudi males should refuse to drive in countries where women can drive. Or receive medical care from female doctors, surgeons and nurses who obviously feel and touch up males (clearly for their own perverse pleasure, as obviously they do, in the course of administering medical help.)
felix1000
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:28
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if he did that he would not be allwed to play
Weally Been
Posted - 21 April 2017 20:15
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Which brings us straight back to it is unacceptable blatant sexism and shouldn't be tolerated

felix1000
Posted - 21 April 2017 21:27
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weally, what section m8
Bright Carver
Posted - 21 April 2017 21:37
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This wouldn't have happened with Michaela Tabb. She'd have headbutted him until he agreed to shake hands.

Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 21:40
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nice rack
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Posted - 22 April 2017 06:25
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How do you know? You can't see how well she's set up the reds in that picture
🐝 buzz
Posted - 22 April 2017 06:43
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I'd certainly cue up between those. I expect my shots would be sprayed all over the place though.
🐝 buzz
Posted - 22 April 2017 06:44
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And of course Weally Been is talking out of his arse.
felix1000
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:17
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Weally what does it like to lose an argument? What section matey?
Osama
Posted - 22 April 2017 16:21
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felers, r u a junior sports lawyer? your take on things is very sweet
felix1000
Posted - 22 April 2017 18:54
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Osama, no I am not, but it is an area I know well, especially in relation to Snooker.
Osama
Posted - 22 April 2017 18:56
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ok