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Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 10 April 2017 18:32
I'll be home late tonight darling.

Oh why?

I am going to a lecture on sex robots with a guy I met on the internet. Don't wait up.
Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 10 April 2017 18:33
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Wife: *looks at amazon echo* alexa I knew u were a bad idea, u bitch
Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 10 April 2017 18:36
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Wife:

*looks at henry hoover*

I don't know what you're smiling about u little ladypart
Lydia
Posted - 10 April 2017 19:56
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Could be dangerous if people set them to go further than they end up wanting them to go.
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 10 April 2017 20:49
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Could be dangerous if people set them to go further than they end up wanting them to go.

Add an Internet connection, and you have even more interesting issues. If Person A controls the device over the Internet to do something which Person B dislikes, and Person B revokes consent, has Person A committed an offence? Not rape, under English law, but potentially assault by penetration.

And what if, due to a security vulnerability, Person A controls Person B's device without Person B's consent at all. Within the computer misuse / cybercrime framework, and potentially assault by penetration too. But if it does indeed fall under, say, s1 Computer Misuse Act, s62 SOA would also seem to be triggered (Committing an offence with intent to commit a sexual offence), adding another offence to the charge sheet.

We might touch on this next week. So to speak.
Scylla
Posted - 11 April 2017 05:27
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Funky did you see that recent case where I think it was a Canadian company, had 'smart' vibrators and other sex toys.

What they didn't tell consumers was that all the date generated was also sent back to the company so it could do analytics and studies for various purposes.

From recall they ended up paying out something like $10,000 to each consumer effected.

I tried to link you happy but weirdly enough the internet sensors here don't like me searching for "sex toy privacy issues"
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 11 April 2017 06:41
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Heh! Yes, I can imagine.

Thank you. Yes, I know the case. I wrote an introductory piece on various legal issues of sextech a couple of months ago, and data protection implications of connected devices was one of the key parts.
Lydia
Posted - 11 April 2017 08:59
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If person A likes being made to do things they don't like that's even more complex, although I'm not sure the issues are that different from when they are off line. One thing is for sure pregnancy is unlikely with these machines if person A is hundreds of miles away from their lover person B (assuming there is a second person at all which there may not be), unless someone fills them with sperm I suppose and sexually transmitted diseases unlikely too so they are probably an awful lot safer than real sex.

May be they come with visual reality head sets so issues of what images we are allowed to look at will be relevant too and what if we get to a point when the machine allows your thoughts to be shown as images? There was recent technology which allowed someone paralysed to imagine lifting his cup to his lips or something through brain waves and it did that. I hope we can make sure that whatever people think which is then translated into images only they see is lawful no matter what the thought is.

Captain Mal
Posted - 11 April 2017 09:16
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Boston Dynamics will be the death of us all.

Not only are they probably going to accidentally create Skynet but it'll be when Skynet watches the youtube videos of them teasing and beating the sh1t out of their earlier creations that it will decide it is best off without us.
Lydia
Posted - 11 April 2017 09:33
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Meanwhile in Lincoln http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4399506/Woman-sex-dogs-bestiality-party-SP ARED-jail.html... had she only known she could have used a robotic instead and all would have been well.
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 11 April 2017 16:41
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I actually attended a discussion at San Diego State University recently which concerned itself with the ethics of robots

If you enjoyed that, you might like this:

http://www.britac.ac.uk/video/do-we-need-robot-law (video)

It was a very good event, IMHO.

May be they come with visual reality head sets

Already there, as far as I know...
Miss T!
Posted - 11 April 2017 23:30
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Be sure to say hi to all the roffers you will no doubt see there!
Lydia
Posted - 12 April 2017 09:06
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..oops I meant "virtual reality" not visual reality although it's probably much the same.....
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 12 April 2017 16:48
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Be sure to say hi to all the roffers you will no doubt see there!

I shall keep my eyes peeled for the Glowing Orange Screen of Identification.
Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 12 April 2017 16:53
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That'll be laz's barnet funxta
Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 12 April 2017 16:56
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It does make some semse of the in the car thing
prestonengland
Posted - 12 April 2017 16:58
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The one in the pic looks nothing like that robohunny from Ex Machina. Defo in when they're as good as her.
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 12 April 2017 18:16
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I'll, erm, see if I can get an ETA on that, Preston!
Wangpain for real ale
Posted - 12 April 2017 18:20
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Funx is upcycling his roomba presto should be ready in a week
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 12 April 2017 18:23
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The Roomba is really only good at picking up small things.

So it should be fine.
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 12 April 2017 18:24
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(This marks a break from my usual form of just being rude to Anna.)
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 19 April 2017 22:37
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It was excellent
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 19 April 2017 22:46
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Video clips, but no demonstrations.
sad banta
Posted - 20 April 2017 13:19
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Careful with the Roomba upcycling. Those Roombas are into some pretty freaky stuff:

https://www.facebook.com/jesse.newton.37/posts/776177951574
harlequin01
Posted - 20 April 2017 14:20
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. .... Attack ships on fire off the coast of Orion. I watch C-Beams glitter in the dark near Tannhauser Gate. Hugeys cum face".

"Time .... to die."
Lydia
Posted - 20 April 2017 16:54
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You certainly can but I'm not going to explain here.
DeadPartnerWalking
Posted - 27 April 2017 08:14
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Seen this? Embedded video worth watching - makes me very uneasy. How many of you wood Harmony? Who - other than Laz - has one on order?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/27/race-to-build-world-first-sex-ro bot


"There are 20 possible components of Harmony’s personality, and owners will use an app to pick a combination of five or six that they can adjust to create the basis for the AI. You could have a Harmony that is kind, innocent, shy, insecure and helpful to different extents, or one that is intellectual, talkative, funny, jealous and happy. McMullen had turned the intellectual aspect of Harmony’s personality up to maximum for my benefit – a previous visit by a CNN crew had gone badly after he had amplified her sexual nature. (“She said some horrible things, asking the interviewer to take her in the back room. It was very inappropriate”.) "
DeadPartnerWalking
Posted - 27 April 2017 11:08
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only one sex robot thread required!
printemps
Posted - 27 April 2017 13:11
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Hilarious question on Woman's Hour mid-bitch about why there are no male sex robots (well, there are, but men want to use them as well) - "So what would a sex doll for a woman actually look like?". Err
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 27 April 2017 18:27
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Hilarious question on Woman's Hour

I have yet to listen to it — on my phone for over the weekend!
Lydia
Posted - 27 April 2017 20:38
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From the linke above
"McMullen changed his materials from latex to silicone so his dolls were more real to the touch: the skin was more elastic, and had friction similar to human skin. He initially charged $3,500 for each doll, based on his costs and time. When he realised how labour intensive the process would be, he started putting his prices up.

Twenty years after RealDoll’s official launch, Abyss Creations ships up to 600 models a year all over the world, priced from $4,400 (£3,400) for a small, basic version to $50,000 (£39,000) or more if the customer has specialist requirements. The company has made RealDolls with blood-red flesh, devil horns and vampire fangs, and with thick hand-stitched body hair from neck to ankle. They are the most sought-after and most well-known sex dolls in the world, used in fashion shoots for Dolce & Gabbana, and starring in a string of television dramas and movies – most famously as Ryan Gosling’s artificial companion in Lars and the Real Girl.

Seventeen people work in the San Marcos HQ, but that is not enough to keep up with demand: from order to shipping, it can take more than three months to produce a RealDoll. McMullen’s 22-year-old nephew Dakotah Shore runs the shipping department and has the most direct contact with customers. “A lot of them are just lonely. Some of them are older and have lost their partner or have got to a point where dating isn’t feasible for them,” he said. “They want to feel that when they come home at the end of the day they have something that’s beautiful to look at that they can take care of.” "

The sex series on Netflix (don't rush to watch it, it's not that good) so far hasn't brought these up. We've seen women making a lot of money on sex cam stuff and a Spanish lady making porn for women. No robots yet. One poor rather large chap from the US who was very in love with his cam girl in Australia and they film the meeting and everything changes - the 4 years of their remote relationship destroyed in seconds.
funkymonkeyesq
Posted - 27 April 2017 20:45
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If you are happy with text over video, I'd recommend:

David Levy's "Love and Sex with Robots" (the seminal work on this topic. Pun intended.)
Sherry Turkle's "Alone Together" (broader than just sex robots, but some interesting commentary on relationships with robots in care-giving contexts)