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SumoKing
Posted - 15 March 2017 17:43
Saillaw
Posted - 15 March 2017 17:47
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A few more details might help. What degree did you do at what kind of uni? Where did you do the LPC? Have you got any prior experience or would this be your first job?

I will let the Rof perverts ask you the other standard questions for any new poster.
Service charge
Posted - 15 March 2017 17:48
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Help to know more.

Why do you want to be one? What does your CV have etc?
Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 17:54
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I did a Law degree at a lower tier university. with a 2.1

I did have a volunteering and a paid paralegal experience, but my last law related work was last year this time.

I am good at everything I have done until now, but I lack in the luck department and I am stuck.

I am getting no where with my applications.

I do want someone to look at my CV and tell me if it is bat kittens or if .

My cv has my ed. my experiences volunteering and paid.
Beermonster
Posted - 15 March 2017 17:56
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It's pretty hard to get paralegal positions without the LPC or at least the GDL
Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 17:59
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I can't even get a shadowing, work experience kind of work lately.
Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:06
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The I answer I usually get is, we want someone with a lot of experience, or we only deal with Recruitment Agency.

The agency then will tell me, Firms are now recruiting those with a lot of experience.

If I can not get a job how am I ever getting the experience?

It just sucks to be me right now.
the places I have had work experience are small firms with 3/4 solicitors that are as old as the firm.

The other city firm i worked at I got there through an agency and the other departments did not want to pay agency fee when i WAS THERE.

Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:12
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Brad's

I think everyone in London has my CV.

The Agency got me a job at the same firm twice. The Agency only works with one department within the firm and whenever they do get a place I am called, even that has been a while. It is a small agency as well.
Osama
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:20
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heh at "Brad's"
PhoenixSunsOutGunsOut
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:44
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what type of law?

Brandsmiths seem to be looking for someone
Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:50
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Phoenix,

Academic bk ground isBanking, finance, employment law.

work experience in Private client

Housing, Employment and general litigation.

Would they take on NQ with varied work experience back ground?

Thanks.
Abbeywell/NSA
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:54
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Bugger I am off for a few days now I am back on Tuesday
email me your cv on Londonrof@gmail.com I will reply with my work addy
I will see if HR have anything and cc you in when I forward your cv to them
Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 18:57
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Abbey,

Thanks I will!

camenbert
Posted - 15 March 2017 21:02
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can you ask your old university?
can you email round the places you were before?
Lost find me
Posted - 15 March 2017 21:19
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daddycam,

My University is a few hours away.


I have asked around the small firms I got shadowing work experience, do not take on people at all, due to lack of office space.

But I have been sending around my CV even for work experience unpaid time, nothing!

the bigger firm I worked at , I have asked around and their paralegal roles applicants have a lot of years work experience and I do not know what to do.

I have even out right asked people I met once or twice to be my references on applications unless you are related or a family friend I am lucked out.

Saillaw
Posted - 15 March 2017 23:16
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Where in the country are you looking as London firms are always looking for people even with minimal experience?
Phoebe Caulfield
Posted - 15 March 2017 23:39
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Presumable even at your lower tier university you still have access to the careers service as a graduate. So you can send them your CV to look at. Also as they have a law programme they should have a legal specialist in their careers team who will know what they are talking about in terms of a CV for legal roles
Mufcsan
Posted - 16 March 2017 01:50
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the paralegal market is very odd. I got a relative some paid paralegalling at my old (magic circle) firm but since that assignment (v short term, think it was 3 weeks or so) they can't get much. The agencies want more experience and the firms can't be bothered to recruit directly (apparently).

I don't understand the thinking at all, so can't be of much help I'm afraid!
Lost find me
Posted - 16 March 2017 14:13
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@ Sallow - I am in London and that is where I am looking, I have even looked for further in the hopes of relocating.

If you can help please let me know.

@ Phoebe - I have sent a few emails and even tried calling it seems like it is a revolving door for people coming and going. I will keep trying.

@ Mufcsan - That is exactly how I feel, but for me I have even tried other non law jobs and when they see a Law degree and work experience geared towards a Law career they retreat from it. I thought a Law degree would be a flexible one, but not for my end.

It is frustrating.
Lost find me
Posted - 16 March 2017 14:50
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@ Phoebe - I have just booked an appointment hopefully they will tell me if my CV is really shitty or if they can help me. thank you.
Saracens1876
Posted - 16 March 2017 14:57
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Are Unis really interested in careers advice as in my day it was a room with brochures and all down to you.

From what I hear from recent interns, they are generally shite.

My take is this. You need to get yourself in front of lawyers and show them you are focused and determined. Loads of law firms and chambers have events and seminars (mainly free) on their websites. They usually restrict student numbers but if you have the minerals to ring and speak to the marketing manager they might put you on a waiting list as their job is to ensure a good turnout. Many people cry off on the day so you might get a look in.

Turn up as if going to an interview, attend the seminar, bang it on your CV and then if possible go the drinks after and practise your skills. This is really important for you to feel comfortable and then you are more likely to give your best at interviews and assessments. Remeber these drinks usually end up talking about the rugby or something where you can get stuck in and then follow up the next couple of days. No later. Handwritten note or card to those you have asked for a business card. Connect on linekdin and ask them for a coffee and that you are seeking further experience or paralegal position. Politely ask but be determined and don't take rejection personally. Ask them for adive and constructive feedback. If the fuckers are rude - think how would it be to work for or with a khunt like that everyday?
minkie
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:03
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Your written English is not brilliant to be honest.

If you had an education overseas you might find sometimes people are lazy about trying to understand how it fits/matches up to what they're used to seeing from UK applicants.
Lost find me
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:05
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Saracens, Thank you.

I have not tried through the marketing dept. I will now.

I do not have a Linekdn account, may be that is where I am failing, people not being able to get to see my online face.

I am actually very good at getting what I want once I am face to face, problem until now is, my applications are not getting me to that stage.
Lost find me
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:08
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@ Minkie

okay thanks
Saillaw
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:13
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In this day and age they'll basically expect you to have a Linkein profile with details of your previous experience and what you're looking for. You'll also find that most recruiters when looking to fill roles will trawl Linkedin and get in touch through there so if you're not on there you'll miss out. I got told recently that at my level I can't be taken seriously without at least 500 connections on Linkedin which seems extreme.
chimes ♥
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:20
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I got told recently that at my level I can't be taken seriously without at least 500 connections on Linkedin which seems extreme.

WTF?
How about you just connect to as many rec cons as you can find.... they'll do for bumping up your numbers!!

Lost -what Saracens said is good advice. I hope you find something soon. Linkedin is actually quite useful. I've just stopped job hunting and it was good for mugging up on employment dates. I can never remember when I started somewhere and when I moved on!
minkie
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:21
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That is just silly saillaw
I would think someone with so much time to faff around on social media is not necessarily someone i would want to hire
Legal Alien
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:34
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Just don't do law. Do something else. EY don't even have a minimum A-level or degree requirement these days.
Phoebe Caulfield
Posted - 16 March 2017 15:49
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Are Unis really interested in careers advice as in my day it was a room with brochures and all down to you.

Well with the introduction of the TEF one of the criteria is the employment rate of graduates, so yes unis are REALLY interested in careers advice as they want to raise fees!
The Mighty David Goffin
Posted - 16 March 2017 18:58
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Why the fvck do you want to be a parablozza? If you get a gig, they are universally shyte and while you may ultimately qualify off it, it seems that you would be at the arse end of the profession which is a waste of time.Treat it as a near miss and do something better with your life.
Lost find me
Posted - 16 March 2017 19:05
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I have looked at other alternatives, no one will touch me with my Law Degree.

I am thinking of scrapping ed. info on my CV and applying for HR.
Saillaw
Posted - 16 March 2017 21:17
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After I was told that I had a look at LinkedIn and was in the high 400's anyway so culled some chinnies and replaced them with current colleagues!
Lost find me
Posted - 16 March 2017 21:20
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@ saillaw you must know someone out of those 400 who will need a paralegal
Mufcsan
Posted - 17 March 2017 01:10
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when I was looking for a legal counsel and a contract manager I was happy to look at CV's coming directly to me, less fees to pay recruiters. I would have considered someone with paralegal experience for the contract manager role as well - have you tried this route (either through linkedin or direct to their email, most people's email addresses are guessable).

Suspect this approach will work best with more senior people and may be better inhouse. Of course you could always go direct to the Senior Grad recruitment/hr person as well.

If you want, send me an email at mufcsan@gmail.com and I will see if there any obvious flaws in your CV. Assume you had recruitment agencies look at your CV already?
Mufcsan
Posted - 17 March 2017 01:15
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ps - feel free to remove identifying info if you do send it!
InfiniteMonkeyTheorem
Posted - 17 March 2017 06:44
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Are you fluent in written and spoken German by any chance?
Lost find me
Posted - 17 March 2017 14:05
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@ Mufcsan - Thank you I will do that today.

@Infinite - No I am sorry, I wish that was the case. Thank you.