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Two Term Trump in less trouble than he thinks
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Brad's big donger
Posted - 11 January 2017 20:15
I'm calling it. I think the US electorate love him more than ever.
Keith Nearing
Posted - 11 January 2017 20:18
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Chances of him living to 78 are so-so tbf. He's a big unit, and I suspect his blood pressure isn't great.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 11 January 2017 20:24
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Hes now got access to the best medical care in the world. He'll get by.
SumoKing
Posted - 11 January 2017 20:30
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it's not the US anymore, in accordance with Trump business practice it is now Trumpland and you can have a piece of it and earn an income if you buy the Trumpland income secret book but that's not all, if you intrdouce 4 friends to the plan and they buy the income secret book then you get a slice of their sales, so long as you motivate them to bring more people into the trapezoid of Trumpland, definately trapezoid, not pyramid
Taurus
Posted - 11 January 2017 21:25
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Were you the one who used to harp on with the "one time Barry" shout? Or "how dare we question the hardworking people of the intelligence community" before that?
Brad's big donger
Posted - 12 January 2017 10:01
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Taurus no, that's the Christmas countdown dude I think.
Hey there! I am using WhatsCYP
Posted - 12 January 2017 10:03
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The day he won his odds of resignation/impeachment before the end of his first term were 6/1.

Now they're 11/10.
McLovīn
Posted - 12 January 2017 10:47
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"A new poll from Quinnipiac University suggests that Trump has reverted to his pre-election standing, with Americans having major concerns about his temperament and the direction in which his presidency will lead the country. Trump’s continued controversies seem to have put him right back where he was before he won the election.

Quinnipiac is the first high-quality pollster to poll on Trump twice since the election. And while its poll in late November showed his favorable rating rising from 34 percent to 44 percent, that number has dropped back to 37 percent, which is about where it stood for much of the campaign. That’s tied for Trump’s worst favorable rating in a poll since his election. And a majority — 51 percent — now have an unfavorable view of him.

Likewise, the Quinnipiac poll shows a drop in confidence in Trump across the board. Although 59 percent were optimistic about the next four years under Trump in November, today that number is 52 percent. While 41 percent thought he would be a better leader than President Obama, it’s now 34 percent. While 52 percent thought he would help the nation's economy, it’s now 47 percent. While 40 percent thought his policies would help their personal financial situation, it’s now 27 percent. While 53 percent thought he’d take the country in the right direction, it’s now 45 percent.

You get the idea. There are similar drops in views of his honesty (42 percent to 39 percent), his leadership skills (56 percent to 49 percent), his compassion for average Americans (51 percent to 44 percent), his levelheadedness (38 percent to 33 percent) and his ability to unite the country (47 percent to 40 percent).

And then it gets worse. Toward the bottom, Quinnipiac asked respondents whether they thought Trump’s behavior since the election made them feel better or worse about him. Although “better” won out in late November, 36 percent to 14 percent who said they felt worse, that showing has been flipped. Today, 28 percent say they feel worse about Trump since Election Day; just 23 percent feel better.
extremely worried
Posted - 12 January 2017 10:50
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The same poll that said Milliband would win, Brexit would lose and Hillary would win.
Perfidious Porpoise
Posted - 12 January 2017 11:00
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As much as I revel in this, Supes, let's remember what all the polls were saying before the election.
McLovīn
Posted - 12 January 2017 11:57
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As much as I revel in this, Supes, let's remember what all the polls were saying before before James Comey reopened the email investigation.


Fixed that for you.
Ça Jeu Prisé
Posted - 12 January 2017 12:39
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Trump defied the polls, yes.

But there is quite a lot of overstatement made about the polling for the UK elections and Brexit and conveniently short memories.

The last few weeks before Brexit gave a Leave vote a lead, only tipping slightly following Jo Cox's murder and right at the last minute. You could say it was neck and neck - many pollsters got 52/48 for Leave. The real shock was the (usually relatively reliable) betting odds getting it so spectacularly wrong.

Similarly, at the UK elections, the Tories were always expected to get the most seats. Yes, pollsters typically expected a hung Parliament, but the real error there was overestimating how many votes LibDems would get and underestimating the SNP's near clean sweep. In reality, the polls were not that far out - there was never any indication that Labour would be the largest party, let alone get a majority.
unpresidented
Posted - 12 January 2017 12:41
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Comey must feel pretty stupid now trump is disowning the intelligence services ......
Barnsbury
Posted - 12 January 2017 13:03
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Having seen some of that awful press conference, I suspect The American People (or the minority of them that voted for Trump) are finally starting to understand what they have let themselves in for. Trump is basically going to conduct his presidency, and certainly his press conferences, as if he's back doing The Apprentice.

Some presidents spend their life looking at approval ratings, this one's going to be obsessing over the viewing figures.
GMT
Posted - 12 January 2017 13:14
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You possibly have to wonder given the abuse Trump has come out with in respect of the intelligence services to what extent they are going to put there necks on the line, in a very dangerous job, to protect him. Assume the way he's been speaking about them that he intends to put his own personal security team in
unpresidented
Posted - 12 January 2017 13:20
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I posted about this yesterday

He may try to disestablish the state services, classic fascist bully boy tactics, see Hitler, and put his own mob in their place.

And consistent with being compromised by Putin, who probably has people embedded in trumps organisation

If that happens then watch the CIA take him out.

Don't bet against it after his performance yesterday. Every time he opens his gob in public the risk of WW3 stsrting goes up.....
McLovīn
Posted - 12 January 2017 13:22
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If you look at the popular vote and look at the latest pre-election polls, the polls were pretty much bang on within the margin of error.

Clinton had a massive lead prior to the Comey announcement but on the day before the election she was only up by a couple of points (and she won the popular vote by 3 points.

She didn't lose because she didn't go to Wisconsin ( she was up by double digits before the Comey announcement so why on earth would she?!), she lost it because propaganda, voter suppression and chicanery made enough of a dent to swing it.

Fuck the flyover states!
extremely worried
Posted - 12 January 2017 13:24
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30 000 people attended trump's rallies, whereas Hillary could hardly fill a school gym with supporters.